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Guanqiu Jian... who was he?

Unread postPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 4:25 pm
by Sun Mantian
I was just wondering because I have read the books over and over again and I have tried looking stuff up on him but I can't find anything out about him.
Any thoughts?

Unread postPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 4:29 pm
by Shadowlink
oh yeah, rise of heroes, I didnt know who he was until slick said he was the one who rebel against Wei or jin... I think Zhuge Dan took him down and he had a warrior like Zhao Yun call Wen Yang... something like that.

WEn Yang was the guy with the whip who did the Zhao Yun changban thing.

He also rebel in shou chun too.

Unread postPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 4:33 pm
by Sun Mantian
Well in the SGZ novels it never states anything about Guanqiu Jian or Wen Yang so when I first decided to play Rise of Heroes I was surprised to see him

Unread postPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 4:35 pm
by Shadowlink
Yeah me too, there were a lot of liu warlords I didnt know about either o.o, but I think they have a bio next to them..

Unread postPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 4:48 pm
by WuLordoftheNewAge
Just wondering... What is Rise of Heroes? I assume it is based on RTK, but what type of game is it?

Unread postPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 4:50 pm
by Sun Mantian
It is a scenario that you unlock once you beat another scenario and you can play as any warlord that you choose and the characters only die if you execute them

Unread postPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 6:01 pm
by WuLordoftheNewAge
What game is it a Scenario in? DW 5 Empires Maybe? Gathering of Heroes? (In America anyways.) If so I know what you are taliking about. You are also allowed to draft your own team of Generals and Lieutenants, correct?

Unread postPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 10:20 pm
by Sun Gongli
Moved to Sanguo Yanyi Symposium. This is for the game, not the novel.

Unread postPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 10:32 pm
by Sima Hui
Guanqiu Jian (Zhonggong) was a Wei general during the reigns of Cao Rui and Cao Fang. He was well-treated by the former and considered quite an important general, as he was overall commander of the first expedition to take out Gongsun Yuan in 237. Unfortunately, he failed due to floods. The next year, he led a second attempt along with Sima Yi, which succeeded. This got him the title of Marquis of Anyi.

He led some assaults on the Korean kingdom of Goguryeo in 244 and 255 and even managed to occupy the capital, forcing the Korean court to flee.

Guanqiu rose up in rebellion on the Wu-Wei border, along with Wen Qin, against Sima Shi after Sima deposed Cao Fang. He was defeated and killed in 255 and most of his family were slaughtered, although a few managed to escape to Wu.

There have been some translation errors in his name, so you might know him as Wuqiu Jian. He's the same guy, so that could account for the mystery about him. Hope this helps. :)

I'm going to lock this topic, since questions should usually be asked in the appropriate thread. I'll repost your question though, so that others can add extra info or correct if some is in error. :)