Cao Cao's Luckiest Break

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Cao Cao's Luckiest Break

Unread postby Shi Tong » Mon Feb 11, 2008 12:04 pm

What was Cao's luckiest break? What made him more powerful by default than the other two main antagonists?

I would do a poll, but there are so many, it's hard to list them all!

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Unread postby Mr Liang » Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:12 pm

When he fell into Lu Bu's trap and Lu Bu accosted him and asked him where Cao Cao was.
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Unread postby Shadowlink » Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:29 pm

When Wei Yan in Hanzhong just shot out his teeths and not his head.
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Unread postby Zhilong » Mon Feb 11, 2008 5:07 pm

When the emperor pretty much fell into his arms. Using the emperor as his puppet he had a huge political advantage, able to order the other warlords around under the pretence of legitimate authority.
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Unread postby Dong Zhou » Mon Feb 11, 2008 5:58 pm

In terms of pure luck, Lu Bu's cavalryman failing to recognise him
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Unread postby Sima Hui » Mon Feb 11, 2008 6:06 pm

The Lu Bu ambush incident definitely tops it. But I'm always amazed by the fact that when Cao Cao is fleeing the capital after trying to assassinate Dong Zhuo, he falls into the hands of the only magistrate who would release and join him, Chen Gong.

Not to mention that Chen also decides not to stab him in his sleep, against his better judgement. :wink:
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Unread postby Phuc » Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:00 am

Sima Hui wrote:The Lu Bu ambush incident definitely tops it. But I'm always amazed by the fact that when Cao Cao is fleeing the capital after trying to assassinate Dong Zhuo, he falls into the hands of the only magistrate who would release and join him, Chen Gong.

Not to mention that Chen also decides not to stab him in his sleep, against his better judgement. :wink:


Those reasons, and he escaped Chi Bi in one piece. despite all the ambushes.
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Unread postby Shi Tong » Tue Feb 12, 2008 12:58 pm

Yes, the escape from Chi Bi, especially novel wise was pretty spectacular. I loved the bit where Guan Yu captures him then lets him go.

Historically this didn't happen at all, but it sure adds tension to the narrative!!

On a completely flip side of this lucky break thing (meaning that he just got away with his hair intact), what do you think Cao Cao's luckiest/ most amazing move was?

Was it when he met up with Xun Yu and Xun You and managed to get persuaded to take the emperor to Xu Chang or what? :D
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Unread postby Long » Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:59 pm

Having Xu Chu by his side at Tong Pass where he not only fended off a rain of arrows, but also cut the limbs off of the troops who were panicking in the water trying to get into the boat and possibly capsizing it. Xu Chu saved him from two separate deaths.
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Unread postby Antiochus » Tue Feb 12, 2008 6:13 pm

I would say that it was when Dong Zhuo decided to go west, because that allowed him to jump headfirst into the major power-vaccum and gain the most economically, manpowery, strategical..ly region in China while only having to contend with Yuan Shu and Liu Bei (later Lu Bu).
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