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Re: Unique Bios from Rafe's Tome of Kickass.

Unread postby Sang » Sun May 10, 2009 5:38 pm

Tarrot wrote:Cheng Lian: He was a cavalry commander, the extent of the info on him, from I think Lu Bu's SGZ.

Gao Ya: An officer in Dongping beat by Cao Cao, again Lu Bu's SGZ.


I checked Lu Bu's SGZ, it only mentioned Cheng Lian once. Lu Bu's SGZ doesn't mention Gao Ya at all. Just want to know what happened to Gao Ya. Did he died in battle? Executed by Cao Cao after the Battle of Xia Pi? Join Cao Cao after the Battle of Xia Pi? All I know is that Cheng Lian refused to join Cao Cao service after the Battle of Xia Pi (thanks to Sam's SGYY bio of Cheng Lian :D ).
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Re: Unique Bios from Rafe's Tome of Kickass.

Unread postby Tarrot » Sun May 10, 2009 5:41 pm

No mention's made of their fate. May not have been Lu Bu's SGZ, I think the number though was SGZ 9. When I get back around to looking at the scans tomorrow, I'll find it.
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Re: Unique Bios from Rafe's Tome of Kickass.

Unread postby Tarrot » Mon May 11, 2009 10:16 am

Some more fun, this time cause of Sun Ce.

Gao Dai [Kongwen]; Wu. Son of Gao Biao, Gao Dai was celebrated as an expert in Zuo zhuan. About 1 90 the Administrator Sheng Xian made him his Reporting Officer and recommended him as Filial and Incorrupt. When Xu Gong came to take over the territory about 193, Gao Dai took Sheng Xian to the encampment of the local leader Xu Zhao for refuge from the troubled times, and he went to seek help from Tao Qian in Xu province. His tears and pleas induced Tao Qian to offer some nominal support, and Gao Dai returned with a letter for Xu Gong, who had in the mean time arrested Gao Dai's mother. Gao Dai managed to persuade him to let her go, then fled to Kuaiji to lead the life of a hermit scholar.

The young warlord Sun Ce, who controlled the lower Yangzi in the late 190s, was interested in Zuo zhuan and wanted to discuss it with Gao Dai. Some unkind person told Gao Dai that Sun Ce hated to be contradicted, so he should accept everything he said; he also told Sun Ce that Gao Dai did not regard him as worthy of debate, and would simply agree with him. When Gao Dai followed the advice he had been given, Sun Ce was furious at the apparent contempt. Despite many public protests - and even perhaps because of them, for he resented such rival popularity - Sun Ce killed Gao Dai. -HHS 80/70B:2652, SGZ Wu 1:1109; deC 90:207.
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Re: Unique Bios from Rafe's Tome of Kickass.

Unread postby ZhouTai50 » Mon May 11, 2009 12:32 pm

Was wondering if this book had any information on Zhu Ling than what is in Cao Cao and Yu Jin's SGZ's. He was always an interesting figure to me and I'd like to know some more about his accomplishments if it's out there.
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Re: Unique Bios from Rafe's Tome of Kickass.

Unread postby Tarrot » Mon May 11, 2009 1:19 pm

Dictionary's in the office, it'll be a long while before I can get his page scanned in. 90% sure though that all his info would be stuff already in the other SGZs.
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Re: Unique Bios from Rafe's Tome of Kickass.

Unread postby Jordan » Wed May 13, 2009 11:11 pm

ZhouTai50 wrote:Was wondering if this book had any information on Zhu Ling than what is in Cao Cao and Yu Jin's SGZ's. He was always an interesting figure to me and I'd like to know some more about his accomplishments if it's out there.


Forgive any spelling errors that might come up with this. My "W" key on my keyboard is being a pain, along with some others.

Zhu Ling [Wenbo]: Ganling/Qinghe. In the service of Yuan Shao about 192, Zhu Ling was sent to attack Ji Yong, who had turned to Gongsun Zan and held Yu city in Ganling. Zhu Ling's mother and younger brother were in the city, and the defenders seized them and showed them [to Zhu Ling] on the wall. Weeping, Zhu Ling observed that "When a man embarks on public affairs, he must think no more of his family." He stormed the city and captured Ji Yong, but his mother and brother both died.

In 193, when Cao Cao attacked Tao Qian, Yuan Shao sent Zhu Ling with troops to assist him. When the other contingents returned, Zhu Ling and his men stayed with Cao Cao.

In 199 Zhu Ling was sent with Liu Bei to intercept Yuan Shu's attempted escape to the north, and he took part in the take-over of Ji province from the remnant of the Yuan family in 204. As Cao Cao entered Jing province in 208, Zhu Ling commanded one of seven divisions in Nanyang under the Area Commander Zhao Yan.

In 211 Zhu Ling accompanied Cao CAo against the warlords of the northwest. While the main army faced the enemy at the Tong Pass, Cao Cao sent Zhu Ling and Xu Huang north into Hedong to establish a bridge-head at the Puban Crossing of the Yellow River so he could mount an oblique attack on Huayin, south of the Wei [River?].

As Cao CAo returned east in 212, Zhu Ling stayed at Chang'an under the command of Xiahou Yuan for operations against the remnants of the warlords. In 215 he took part in the defeat of the Di people in Wudu, opening the road to attack Zhang Lu's Hanzhong.

Zhu Ling's reputation as a commander was comparable to that of his colleague Xu Huang, though there was one occasion where Cao Cao was angry with him and sent Yu Jin with orders for Zhu Ling to hand over his command and take a post on his staff.

Zhu Ling later became General of the Rear, and he was enfeoffed by Cao Pi. He was one of the sponsors of a commemorative stele when Cao Pi took the imperial title, and he continued to serve in the field under Cao Pi and Cao Rui.

Sources: -SGZ 17:530-31*, LS 19:4a; Goodman 98:196.

Sun Song, Sun Tai, Xu Zhong, or Pan Jun?


Sun Song: [Binshi or Binshuo]: Beihai. Of strong local family, as a young man [in] about 160 Sun Song met with Zhao Qi, who had fled his enemies, Tang Xuan and his brother the powerful eunuch Tang Heng, and was selling pots in the market place. Recognising [sic] his quality, Sun Song approached him. AT first Zhao Qi was afraid he was a spy sent to trap him, but then he told his story. Sun Song swore friendship, and he hid Zhao Qi for several years in a concealed room in his house.

With the great scholar Zheng Xuan and other gentlemen of the commandery, Sun Song had links to the reform Faction of the late 160s, and they were all proscribed from office for several years. Sun Song maintained teaching, however, and his protection of Zhao Qi made him well-known in the east of the Empire. AFter the Proscription was ended in 184 he became Inspector of Yu province.

During the troubles of the 190s, Sun Song went south into Jing province. At first Liu Biao did not receive him well, but in 195 Zhao Qi came on an embassy from the newly re-established court at Luoyang. Greeting Sun Song with the utmost affection, he told Liu Biao how he had saved him, and Liu Biao thereafter treated Sun Song with respect.

Sun Song was named Inspector of his native Qing province, though that territory was currently a centre of warfare between Yuan Tan, Tian Kai and Kong Rong, and the title was rather a courtesy than a reality. He died in the south, but we are told that Zhao Qi carried out funerary ceremonies for him, and his tomb and stele are recorded in his home county, so his body was evidently repatriated to the north.

Sources: -HHS 64/54: 2122-24, 35/25: 1807, SGZ 18:551-52, SJZ 26:25a, Ch'u 72: 208

Sun Tai (d. 234): Wu. Son of Sun Kuang by the Lady Cao VI*, he became a colonel. He was killed in an attack on the Wei city of Hefei in Jiujiang.

Sources: -SGZ Wu 6:1213

[Not much info on him sadly. I was looking forward to more about him too. If I remember right, The Chronicles of the Three Kingdoms write-up by Liang Shuo/Gabriel mentions something about the Wei general Man Chong burning Wu's siege equipment, then shooting and killing Sun Tai.]

Xu Zhong: An officer of Sun Quan, in 215 Xu Zhong went with Lu Meng to seize the south of Jing province from Guan Yu and Liu Bei.

Sources: -SGZ Wu 2:1119

Pan Jun [Chengming] (d. 239); Wuling. A scholarly man, Pan Jun studied under the New Text expert Song Zhong and then became Officer of Merit in his commandery. He was recommended for Wang Can to Liu Biao and became an Assistant Officer for the province, with responsibility for Jiangxia. He killed a corrupt magistrate there, and gained further reputation for his own fine administration of a county.

Pan Jun became a senior member of Liu Bei's staff about 208, and when Liu Bei went to Yi province in 211 he left him with Guan Yu in Jing province, responsible for civil matters.

When Wu conquered Jing province in 219, Pan Jun at first refused to serve, but he was persuaded by a personal approach from Sun Quan. He defeated the loyalist Fan Zhou and operated successfully against the non-Chinese people of his home commandery. He was made a general and enfeoffed, and when Sun Quan took the imperial title in 229, he named Pan Jun as his minister of Ceremonies. Pan Jun's younger son Mi was given Sun Quan's half-sister, the Lady Sun V*, in marriage, and his daughter also married into the imperial clan.

-SGZ Wu 16:1397-99

*-These numbers after the names of Ladies have nothing to do with generations. Dr. Rafe de Crespigny separates different Lady Suns, Caos, etc. using numbers. In other words, ignore these numbers, because they don't mean anything.

Pan Jun had a translated Sanguozhi biography on EmpireDividedTK. I haven't gotten around to editing it for spelling and grammar (I've been doing that with some of the ones I've saved), but here it is for your personal reference.

"Pan Jun (Chengming)

Pan Jun styled Chengming was a man from Han Shou in Wuling. When he was young he followed Song Zhongzi to study. When he was not yet 30 the Governor of JingZhou Liu Biao had him serve as (bu jiang xia congshi). When the Shaxian Chief would not cultivate his booty, Jun pushed to kill him. One region shook with poignancy. Later he served as the Prefect of Xiangxiang and he became very well known. Liu Bei took over JingZhou and used Jun to serve as (Zhizhong congshi). Bei went to Shu (XuZhou) and left the province affairs with Jun.

Sun Quan kills Guan Yu and appointed Jun as (fu jun zhong lang jiang) and gave him soldiers. Later he advanced to be (fen wei jiangjun) and was conferred as the Marquis of Changqian Pavilion. Quan praised and honored him and appointed him to serve as Shaofu. He advanced to be Marquis of Liufang and Master of Ceremonies (taichang). The Wuxi (Five Creek) barbarians rose in armed rebellion. Quan gave Jun Jie (T1) and gave him power to supervise all the armies to fight the rebellion. He had signs that he would definitely win. He beheads their leader. The captured number several tens of thousands. From that region the barbarians are week and feeble and the land returned to tranquility.

Earlier Jun took part with Lu Xun to station troops at WuChang. They preserved the affairs and he returned to Fugu. When (Xiao Shi) Lu Yi abused and exploited his power and authority, Jun sent a memorial to Prime Minister Gu Yong and General of the Left Zhu Ju. They took actions to prohibit it. Gentleman in Attendance of the Yellow Gates, Xie Hong repeatedly asked Yi, “You should look after the common good. Why did you act so?” Yi answered, “I did not do such!” Hong again asked, “Seems as if these public actions warrant your removal. Who is suitable to replace him?” Yi did not answer Hong. Hong said, “Is Pan Taichang (T2) reliable?” After a long time Yi responded, “He is too close to the ruler.” Hong said, “Taichang frequently cut his tooth for the ruler, yet you speak of him without cause or ear. Today you are in the consideration of the courts. You should fear tomorrow, when you are in the presence of the Lord.” Yi was greatly afraid and he broke down. Jun sought the Imperial Court and went to Jian Ye. He hoped to get Yi to be forced to resign or be exiled. He arrived and heard that Heir Apparent, [Sun] Deng, had spoke of him but did not see his motives. Jun thereupon planned to invite 100 fellow ministers to a meeting where he would kill Lu Yi. He said he would set a good example for them and serve to remove a disease from the Kingdom. Yi heard about his plan. Yi feigned illness and said he was not capable of attending. Jun came to see him. He labeled Yi a traitor. From this Yi’s favor greatly declined. Later he was executed. Quan took the responsibilities and blamed himself. He permitted him to become chancellor go Quanzhuan.

In the 2nd year of Chi Wu [240] Jun died. His son Zhu took his position. His daughter went to the Marquis of Jianchang Sun Lu.

1) Jie was given to General and Officials. It allowed them to execute people and was a very honorable thing to be given.
2)Sometimes Ministers would refer to others by their Surname and then their rank in place of their given name. Pan Jun was the Taichang and therefore he was referred to as Pan Taichang."
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Re: Unique Bios from Rafe's Tome of Kickass.

Unread postby Tarrot » Fri May 15, 2009 1:28 pm

New fun one: This is why you don't say no to Dong Zhuo.

Huangfu Gui, wife of. Substantially younger than her husband, the Lady was a skilled student of literature and an expert calligrapher in the cao shu "Grass Style." She acted as Huangfu Gui's secretary and her work was widely admired.

When Huangfu Gui died in 174 the Lady was still young and attractive. As Dong Zhuo took supreme power in 189 he sent her a proposal of marriage. It was accompanied by a hundred wagons of treasure, twenty horses, slaves, cash and valuable cloth, but the Lady went to Dong Zhuo's residence in plain clothing and begged her excuses.

Dong Zhuo was furious that, as master of the world, he was defied by a woman, and he ordered his house slaves to surround her with drawn swords. Realising she had no escape, the Lady cursed Dong Zhuo for his disloyalty and usurpation of power; Dong Zhuo had her crushed by chariots.

The Lady was commemorated for her fidelity, and her biography appears in Fan Ye's Chapter on Worthy Women. -HHS 84/74:2798*.


Also, an exert from the Huangfu Song biography on the results of his Turban campaign. I have to say.... it would be effective.

In the following month Huangfu Song joined the local Administrator Guo Dian to defeat and kill Zhang Bao. So great were the enemy losses that it is said they could form a "Capital Observatory": a macabre conceit based upon the idea that the heads were piled so high one could see the capital from the top. Huangfu Song was named General of Chariots and Cavalry on the Lefl and Governor of Ji province, while his fief was increased by the revenues of a second county.
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Re: Unique Bios from Rafe's Tome of Kickass.

Unread postby Tarrot » Mon May 18, 2009 10:48 am

Another fun one. This is why you don't emulate mystics.

Li Tan; Anping. A Consultant at the Han court under Cao Cao, Li Tan was influenced by the adept Hao Mengjie/Xi Jian and attempted to practice his techniques of long life, including abstention from cereals, eating the "China-root" fungus Pachyma or Porla Cocos, and drinking cold water. He got diarrhoea, however, and very nearly died. -SGZ 29:805.
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Re: Unique Bios from Rafe's Tome of Kickass.

Unread postby Sun Fin » Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:25 pm

Is there one for Yan Gang, Tian Kai and Shan Jing Gongsun Zan's officers?
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Re: Unique Bios from Rafe's Tome of Kickass.

Unread postby Jordan » Wed Jun 17, 2009 10:39 pm

Sun Fin wrote:Is there one for Yan Gang, Tian Kai and Shan Jing Gongsun Zan's officers?


Yan Gang (d. 192). Named as INspector of Ji province by Gongsun Zan in 191, Yan Gang was killed in battle by Yuan Shao's general Qu Yi at the Jie Bridge on the Qing River in the following year.

Tian Kai (d. 199). Named INspector of Qing province by Gongsun Zan in 191, Tian Kai fought Yuan Shao for that territory until a truce was agreed in 193. In 194 he brought aid to Tao Qian against Cao Cao. By 196 Tian Kai had been pushed back north by Yuan Tan, and he joined Gongsun Zan at Yi city in Hejian. He died when the fortress was stormed by Yuan Shao.

Shan Jing: In 191, Shan Jing was made Inspector of Yan province by Gongsun Zan. In the following year he was sent to aid Tao Qian against Cao Cao, but was defeated at Pingyuan.
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