Was Ma chao a good general for shu

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Was ma chao a good general for shu

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Was Ma chao a good general for shu

Unread postby white_tiger_55 » Mon Nov 26, 2007 10:27 pm

I cant stand to see ma chao as a tiger general if he didnt do anything good for shu so tell me what did he did :?: pleas
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Unread postby Lonely_dragon » Tue Nov 27, 2007 1:02 am

I hate to break it up to you but... In Shu Ma Chao contributions were not much... he did participates in some campaigns and manage to gain victory... Other than that I can't seem to find noted services...

Why he is made a tiger general then? I think it is due to his fame and ability... He nearly captured Cao Cao... and the famous battle at Tong gate... He did good at Shu but did better when he leads the Xi Liang forces against Cao Cao... He also helped conquering Cheng Du so I think that's why he was made a tiger general...

So I had to say No he did not do any good for Shu!!!! :twisted: :twisted:


Nope I was joking.... :lol: :lol: :lol:

I have to say that Shu's northern defense lies on his shoulder against the Qiang tribe... and he did gain victory for Shu... so yes he is worthy as one of the tiger general....
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Unread postby Cao Shang » Tue Nov 27, 2007 1:19 am

I guess Ma Chao was also a bit lucky... who else would have been suited to become a Tiger General?
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Unread postby Little_Phoenix » Tue Nov 27, 2007 3:13 am

Yuan Yun wrote:I guess Ma Chao was also a bit lucky... who else would have been suited to become a Tiger General?


Wei Yan quiet suited enough.

Lonely_dragon wrote:I have to say that Shu's northern defense lies on his shoulder against the Qiang tribe... and he did gain victory for Shu... so yes he is worthy as one of the tiger general....


compare to Wei Yan, he's done nothing...just guard the pass. Victory? nope...he just doing joint attack with Zhang Fei....not his own skill. Ma Chao almost done nothing. he's not worthed become one of tiger general
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Unread postby xiaoxiannu » Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:30 am

Well...Wei Yan is surely one of famous general back then that is sure has a big contribution to Shu. But he seems like made a fatal error some times and his reputation is not good as Ma Chao. So I think five tiger general that Liu Bei made for raised their prestige through the land, which is a weak categories for wei yan.
For contribution to Shu wei yan is more good than Ma Chao, still Ma Chao achieved that rank because of his fame. :D
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Unread postby Sun Fin » Tue Nov 27, 2007 5:12 pm

I sid yes because he did have a mighty reputation and he did keep the Qiang (sorry for spelling) away on name alone saving many lives. also he did all that was ever asked of him by Shu. as for Wei Yan i know that Zhuge Liang in the book makes a comment about putting him to death the moment he comes to serve Liu Bei. I don't know if it happened in real life but if the main adviser was against him what chance did he have of being a tiger general? and as was said earlier no else deserved to be a tiger general.
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Unread postby Ricky » Tue Nov 27, 2007 7:22 pm

I'm pretty sure he was given this rank because of his reputation he had in the north. Other than that, his contribution to Shu is very little.
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Unread postby Dong Zhou » Tue Nov 27, 2007 9:49 pm

i know that Zhuge Liang in the book makes a comment about putting him to death the moment he comes to serve Liu Bei. I don't know if it happened in real life


for the record, no, Zhuge Liang never advised that
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Unread postby Little_Phoenix » Wed Nov 28, 2007 9:43 am

Dong Zhou wrote:
i know that Zhuge Liang in the book makes a comment about putting him to death the moment he comes to serve Liu Bei. I don't know if it happened in real life


for the record, no, Zhuge Liang never advised that


i think it is Wei Yan?...in novel, when Wei Yan want to serve Liu Bei after he killed his own master (Han Xuan)...Zhuge Liang give him sentence to death because of Wei Yan ingratitude's manner
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Unread postby Dong Zhou » Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:40 pm

He said in real life he didn't know, I was just informing him. I know it happens in the novel but I did phrase that very badly, I apologise
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