Had Sima Yi stormed into the Empty Fort...

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Unread postby Lu Kang » Sun Oct 07, 2007 3:25 pm

Sun Gongli wrote:It did happen, except that it was actually performed by Wen Pin against Sun Quan, not by Zhuge Liang against Sima Yi.


While Wei Lue does state that this event occurs, it contradicts SGZ and therefore probably didn't happen.
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Unread postby Six_and_Up » Mon Oct 08, 2007 4:47 am

If Sima Yi storms the fort, kongming dies or at least is captured. No way i see him running away when theres about 100000 plus Wei soldiers who want his head
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Unread postby Lonely_dragon » Mon Oct 08, 2007 6:51 am

Well If Sima Yi had proceed to storm the empty castle things could get nasty for Zhuge Liang... For If I hadn't misread he had sent away most of his troops and he was left at that city with only a hundred or so soldiers and the civil officers...

Other versions: If Sima Yi did storm the castle Zhuge will throw his musical instrument and it might hit Sima in the head that he will be forced to retreat... :lol:
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Unread postby lanceyap » Mon Oct 08, 2007 8:57 am

Lonely_dragon wrote:Well If Sima Yi had proceed to storm the empty castle things could get nasty for Zhuge Liang... For If I hadn't misread he had sent away most of his troops and he was left at that city with only a hundred or so soldiers and the civil officers...

Other versions: If Sima Yi did storm the castle Zhuge will throw his musical instrument and it might hit Sima in the head that he will be forced to retreat... :lol:


Haha :lol:
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Unread postby Little_Phoenix » Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:41 am

hmmm maybe he will :D ....force someone to wear his cloth and waving his fan...and then....escape,hehehe
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Unread postby Zhilong » Fri Oct 12, 2007 4:59 am

Even if ZL died there, Shu would not necessarily be finished. Wei attacks on Shu made little progress when ZL was present and even when he was dead until Fei Yi was dead.

ZL had already memorialised Liu Shan to appoint Jiang Wan as his successor should anything go wrong. There may well be a power struggle with his death and also there may be a problem with the retreat.
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Unread postby Shi Tong » Fri Oct 12, 2007 12:50 pm

I also thought that the empty ruse was actually Zhao Yun's, somewhere else against someone else! :wink:

err- if it had been the novel version of Zhuge Liang who was trapped in the city, he would have called up ghost soldiers from the heavens to protect him while he used his levitation arts to get away.

That is.. after all.. what the novel is like :lol:

If he was a realistic character and this had actually happened, then he'd most probably be captured.. and that would have lead to a pretty weak Shu, had he not be ransomed.
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Unread postby Lord Chuff » Sat Oct 13, 2007 7:24 pm

Shi Tong wrote:err- if it had been the novel version of Zhuge Liang who was trapped in the city, he would have called up ghost soldiers from the heavens to protect him while he used his levitation arts to get away.


:lol: That is very true, he would have used his "for-shortening the land" technique to aid his escape.

If he was a realistic character and this had actually happened, then he'd most probably be captured.. and that would have lead to a pretty weak Shu, had he not be ransomed.


I don't believe they would ever have ransomed him. He had caused way too much trouble and no matter how much they got for him, he would have caused much more damage to them in the future.
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Unread postby the glorious sun jian » Sat Oct 13, 2007 8:14 pm

Sun Gongli wrote:It did happen, except that it was actually performed by Wen Pin against Sun Quan, not by Zhuge Liang against Sima Yi.


I think you meant the empty city because you have said that zhuge uesed it against Sima .... anyway can you tell me the story Sun Gongli??
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Unread postby Shadowlink » Sat Oct 13, 2007 8:15 pm

Simple Zhuge Liang dies, Shu falls, Wu falls. It's a domino effect.
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