Comprehensive biography: Xu Shao (Zijiang)

Comprehensive biography: Xu Shao (Zijiang)

New postby Sun Gongli on Sun Mar 26, 2006 2:15 pm

Upon seeing that all of my officer biographies have either been for Sun family members or someone who may as well have been a Sun family member, I decided I'd take the position of one of Sun Ce's first enemies here with this biography. It'll surprise a few of you to know that he served Liu Yao.

Xu Shao (許劭)
Styled Zijiang (子將)
150-195

Xu Shao, styled Zijiang, was a man from Runan. He was celebrated as a moral critic. He is most noted for an occasion during which Cao Cao came to him seeking critique, and Xu Shao replied, "In peace, you are an able subject; in chaos, you are a crafty hero!" Thus, Cao Cao became known as the Hero of Chaos.

On one occasion, Xu Shao ventured to Xuzhou and was received warmly by Tao Qian, the Inspector. However, Xu Shao was critical of him and commented to his servants, "Tao Gongzu appears to admire people of my quality, but he is not genuine. Though he treats me generously, he will not always be in so agreeable." (1) Indeed, things were just as Xu Shao said, as later, Tao Qian would commit acts of negligence and malice, arresting many of the upright and talented gentlemen of the province.

Xu Shao then served as advisor to Liu Yao of Yang province. When Yuan Shu's associate Sun Ce invaded Dantu, someone suggested that Liu Yao make use of Taishi Ci to oppose him. Liu Yao replied, "If I appoint Ziyi [I], then Zijiang will laugh at me." This shows the extent to which Xu Shao's opinions were respected, but it can also show that he was sometimes mistaken, as Taishi Ci ended up being the most capable of Liu Yao's officers.

[I] Ziyi is the style name of Taishi Ci.

When Sun Ce conquered Dantu, Liu Yao was planning on seeking assistance from Wang Lang of Kuaiji. However, Xu Shao dissuaded him thus:

"Kuaiji is very rich and is the desire of (Sun) Ce, and is also cornered against the ocean and cannot be retreated from. It is not as favorable as Yuzhang - to the north lies Yan, to the west is Jing.

"Take the officials and the people with you, send tribute, and contact Cao Cao in Yan. Although Yuan Gonglu is in the way, he is a selfish and cruel wolf or jackal. He will not prosper.

"Once you have court power, Mengde and Jingsheng [II] will certainly send help." (2)

[II] Mengde is Cao Cao's style name, and Jingsheng is Liu Biao's.

Liu Yao accepted this advice and sent Zhu Hao [III] to attack Zhuge Xuan at Yuzhang, driving him out. Zhuge Xuan would later be killed by his own men in a mutiny.

[III] Zhu Hao (朱皓), styled Wenming (文明), was an officer of Liu Yao.

Ze Rong also came to Yuzhang, but Xu Shao knew the man to be greedy and violent, and warned Liu Yao. Ze Rong ended up killing Zhu Hao and rebelling, but Liu Yao quashed his rebellion, and Ze Rong was killed by the people of the hills.

Xu Shao died in Yuzhang shortly thereafter, however, and with his trusted advisor gone, Liu Yao continued to suffer until his own death two years later. Liu's family and remaining forces would later be annexed into Sun Ce's.

(1) Rafe de Crespigny, "To Establish Peace." The quote, like others, originally comes from Liu Yao's SGZ biography.

(2) Liu Yao's SGZ biography.
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New postby MarvelousLingTong!!!!!! on Sun Mar 26, 2006 6:54 pm

Good job Sun Gongli that was a great learning expierence for me as I really knew nothing about Xu Shao.
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New postby Sun Gongli on Sun Mar 26, 2006 6:57 pm

Thanks. He's one of the trickier guys out there.
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New postby Huang Bob on Sun Mar 26, 2006 7:24 pm

Very nice, I always wondered what happened to him.

And who is this Zhuge Xuan you mentioned?
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New postby SlickSlicer on Sun Mar 26, 2006 7:59 pm

Cafe de Respigny?!

Yeah I knew about Xu Shao and Zhu Hao from before. I always liked that Buddhist guy Ze Rong (I think he was the devout Buddhist character?) as well. Maybe I'll write a bio on him or something. I also remember hearing about some negative quote of Xu Shao's about Yuan Shu I think. Anyways nice biography.

And who is this Zhuge Xuan you mentioned?


I think he was Zhuge Liang's uncle actually but I might be wrong about that. He served Yuan Shu as a Grand Administrator of Yuzhang but was defeated as you saw in Sun Gongli's biography.
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New postby Sun Gongli on Mon Mar 27, 2006 3:00 am

SlickSlicer wrote:Cafe de Respigny?!

Yeah I knew about Xu Shao and Zhu Hao from before. I always liked that Buddhist guy Ze Rong (I think he was the devout Buddhist character?) as well. Maybe I'll write a bio on him or something. I also remember hearing about some negative quote of Xu Shao's about Yuan Shu I think. Anyways nice biography.

And who is this Zhuge Xuan you mentioned?


I think he was Zhuge Liang's uncle actually but I might be wrong about that. He served Yuan Shu as a Grand Administrator of Yuzhang but was defeated as you saw in Sun Gongli's biography.


D'oh. Editing now.

Ze Rong actually wasn't too good a Buddhist - he built lavish temples, yes, but he taxed the peasants heavily to do so and was pretty nasty.
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New postby Huang Bob on Mon Mar 27, 2006 3:48 am

SlickSlicer wrote:I think he was Zhuge Liang's uncle actually but I might be wrong about that. He served Yuan Shu as a Grand Administrator of Yuzhang but was defeated as you saw in Sun Gongli's biography.


Well that's what I was thinking...but..According to Zhuge Liang's life chronology, Unlce Xuan died in 197..and:

Liu Yao accepted this advice and sent Zhu Hao [III] to attack Zhuge Xuan at Yuzhang, driving him out. Zhuge Xuan would later be killed by his own men in a mutiny.


..that gives me the impression that he died before Xu Shao died in 195.
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New postby Sun Gongli on Mon Mar 27, 2006 4:06 am

Huang Bob wrote:
SlickSlicer wrote:I think he was Zhuge Liang's uncle actually but I might be wrong about that. He served Yuan Shu as a Grand Administrator of Yuzhang but was defeated as you saw in Sun Gongli's biography.


Well that's what I was thinking...but..According to Zhuge Liang's life chronology, Unlce Xuan died in 197..and:

Liu Yao accepted this advice and sent Zhu Hao [III] to attack Zhuge Xuan at Yuzhang, driving him out. Zhuge Xuan would later be killed by his own men in a mutiny.


..that gives me the impression that he died before Xu Shao died in 195.


I don't mean to get that impression. But Zhuge Xuan likely would not have been mutinied had he not been defeated at Yuzhang, so I wanted to include a cause and effect.
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New postby Huang Bob on Mon Mar 27, 2006 4:27 am

So this Xuan is Kongming's uncle?
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New postby Sun Gongli on Mon Mar 27, 2006 12:24 pm

Huang Bob wrote:So this Xuan is Kongming's uncle?


Yes. He was the one that he and his two brothers lived with, though it's likely that they had all relocated at that time.
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