Liu Pi wrote:Perhaps if Liu Shan had been captured at Chang Ban then maybe Liu bei wouldn'thave had Liu Feng executed when he refused to send troops to Guan Yu.
Elven Fury wrote:I think that no one coudl see the future... Zhao Yun did his duty, did it the best he could, and did it the best of anyone... If he had knwn the future and what it held, then he wouldnt have saved Liu Chan im sure...
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