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Unread postby MasaKenji » Wed Dec 29, 2004 4:47 am

its the way of war. remember jing is a great economic province... giving it away is just stupid.
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Unread postby LiuBeiwasGreat » Wed Dec 29, 2004 1:07 pm

The land was essentially Cao Cao's land so it was whom ever grabs it first. Zhuge Liang managed saw that Zhou Yu had "died" and Cao Ren took the advantage to he acted. Perfectly reasonable.
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Unread postby Battousai » Fri Dec 31, 2004 7:36 am

So Cao Ren was incharged of the Jing providence?
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Unread postby LiuBeiwasGreat » Fri Dec 31, 2004 12:50 pm

Battousai wrote:So Cao Ren was incharged of the Jing providence?


Cao Ren was in charge of the defense of Jiang Ling. I think the novel mentioned that Xiahou Dun was in Xiang Liang but he only gets a passing mention so it looks like Cao Ren was in overall command of the area.
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Re: Zhou Yu bretayed

Unread postby man4422 » Sun Jan 09, 2005 8:21 am

Battousai wrote:I just can't understand Zhuge Liang betrayal to Zhou Yu, Zhou yu just asked him an alliance since he wanted to proctect his and Sun Ce's wife, the two Qiaos and after they decided to attack a Wei providence, Zhuge Liang orders to take them before Zhou Yu's forces does and I find that unfair, althougth the strongest get everything :?


I dont think so, in the novel, Zhuge Liang orders to take Jingzhou after Zhou Yu have failed to conquer Jingzhou, not before it.

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Unread postby Guan Yunchang » Thu Jan 13, 2005 5:20 pm

Zhou Yu was not a spiteful man, but he was a very competetive one and that made him look spiteful. Zhuge Liang wasn't a saint but he was one of best guys around. If you have any doubts about Kongming, then get your head out og SGZ and read Way Of The General.

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