Why is Cao Ren so revered?

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Why is Cao Ren so revered?

Unread postby SharoKham » Tue Aug 27, 2002 3:49 pm

Why does everyone like Cao Ren so much? From what I saw in the novel, he was little more than one of Cao Cao's nepotistic appointments. I don't recall him ever doing anything noteworthy. I don't mean to be inflammatory, I'm just curious as to why Cao Ren gets so much praise.
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Unread postby Zhou Gongjin » Tue Aug 27, 2002 4:45 pm

My advice is to reconsider the way you are posting this topic and edit your first post. If not then I'll just delete it.
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Unread postby Cao Ren » Tue Aug 27, 2002 5:14 pm

Though not powerful, Cao Ren was an incredibly good leader and general. He helped Cao Cao from the beginning and deserves good credit.
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Unread postby Mitsunari Ishida » Wed Aug 28, 2002 2:21 pm

Remember Cao Ren was said to be very brave, and held off the southland troops when they tried to take Nanjun, but then, Shu took it off him but still he was one of Cao Cao's best generals and had been serving Cao Cao for a long time, since the beginning.
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Unread postby Lance » Wed Aug 28, 2002 7:08 pm

Cao Ren also held Jiang-Ling for a year against a Wu army with higher morale and greater numbers led by Zhou Yu and Wu's great generals.....which is quite noteworthy......he was also a key figure in Wei's defense of Xiang Yang against Wu(as far as I know......Xiahou Dun was also stationed there, which gives credit to Wu)
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Unread postby Zhang Liao17 » Wed Aug 28, 2002 8:41 pm

Cao Ren served Cao Cao from the start and helped form Wei. He was a trusted border commander for the Wei armies and had a lot of success against Zhou Yu and Wu. He was both intelligent and brave. He drove into Wu troops alone twice and saved some of his troops and his subcommander Niu Jin. He was extremely talented and although the novel doesn't talk about him too much, he had a lot to do with the Cao family success.
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Unread postby lordostrategy » Wed Aug 28, 2002 8:43 pm

Why do you forget Cao Hong? He was just as skilled....

Mabye they got their impression from DW3's Tong Gate battle.... seeing them both be Lu Bus....

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Unread postby Zhang Liao17 » Wed Aug 28, 2002 9:02 pm

lordostrategy wrote:Why do you forget Cao Hong? He was just as skilled....

Mabye they got their impression from DW3's Tong Gate battle.... seeing them both be Lu Bus....

Later, ill be back in a hour....


This thread is about Cao Ren and has nothing to do with Cao Hong. If you want to discuss his ability, start a separate thread.
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Re: Why is Cao Ren so revered?

Unread postby Iznoach, Legendary Dragon » Thu Aug 29, 2002 8:57 am

SharoKham wrote:Why does everyone like Cao Ren so much? From what I saw in the novel, he was little more than one of Cao Cao's nepotistic appointments. I don't recall him ever doing anything noteworthy. I don't mean to be inflammatory, I'm just curious as to why Cao Ren gets so much praise.


If you'll look in the novel, it doesn't really say too much about him, but he valiantly defended Nanjun after Chibi, and had to fight off both Shu and Wu. He was, imo, a more valuable general to Wei than Zhang He, by far.
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Re: Why is Cao Ren so revered?

Unread postby twiztidscholar45 » Thu Apr 01, 2004 2:20 am

SharoKham wrote:Why does everyone like Cao Ren so much? From what I saw in the novel, he was little more than one of Cao Cao's nepotistic appointments. I don't recall him ever doing anything noteworthy. I don't mean to be inflammatory, I'm just curious as to why Cao Ren gets so much praise.



I think you need to reconsider, if you read the SGZ bio on him you will reconsider.
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