Talents of the three kingdoms

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Re: Talents of the three kingdoms

Unread postby danuracula » Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:02 pm

Dong Zhou wrote:The problem for that that Zhou Yu had plenty of battles in which to show a flair for tactics, he never did. He was very good at listening to advice and using it but not creating his own. That ability to listen helped make him a very good commander so I'm not dismissing him but we can't call him a tactician.

Whereas we can certainly call the novel Zhou Yu a tactician which is my wider point.

Yeah you're right. He is a tactician in the novel but strategist in reality.
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Re: Talents of the three kingdoms

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:10 pm

I would more go history Zhou Yu was a commander, musician and strategist+nice guy. Novel Zhou Yu was a commander, strategist, tactician and musician (as well as narrative device :wink: )
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Re: Talents of the three kingdoms

Unread postby Jordan » Sun Jan 19, 2020 2:29 pm

Requesting an unpin for this thread as it's more of a discussion thread and less objectively informational or useful as a resource.
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Re: Talents of the three kingdoms

Unread postby Ouyang_Feng » Fri Jan 31, 2020 7:04 am

Shu:
Favourite general: Ma Chao
Least favourite general: Guan Yu
Greatest dueller: Zhang Fei
Most overrated general: Guan Yu
Most underrated general: Wei Yan
Favourite strategist: Fa Zheng
Least favourite strategist: Ma Su
Greatest strategist: Fa Zheng
Most overrated strategist: Zhuge Liang
Most underrated strategist: Fa Zheng
Overall greatest general of the kingdom Shu: Ma Chao

Wu:
Favourite general: Taishi Ci
Least favourite general: none
Greatest dueller: Taishi Ci
Most overrated general: Zhou Yu
Most underrated general: He Qi
Favourite strategist: Lu Xun
Least favourite strategist: none
Greatest strategist: Lu Meng
Most overrated strategist: none
Most underrated strategist: none
Overall greatest general of the kingdom Wu: Zhou Yu, Lu Meng and Lu Xun

Wei:
Favourite general: Xu Huang
Least favourite general: none
Greatest dueller: Xu Zhu
Most overrated general: Zhang Liao
Most underrated general: Yu Jin
Favourite strategist: Jia Xu
Least favourite strategist: none
Greatest strategist: Jia Xu and Guo Jia
Most overrated strategist: Sima Yi
Most underrated strategist: Xi Zhicai
Overall greatest general of Wei: Xu Huang

None three kingdoms:
Favourite general: Zhang Ren
Least favourite general: none
Greatest dueller: Lu Bu
Most overrated general: Yan Liang and Wen Chou
Most underrated general: Chunyu Qiong
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