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Unread postby Sam » Wed Dec 18, 2002 5:47 pm

Who do you feel were the most talented generals and strategists of the three kingdoms era? Who do you feel were the most underrated and overrated of the three kingdoms era? Who were your favourite generals and strategists of the three kingdoms era? Feel free to add your own categories in your own post :)

Shu:
Favourite general: Wang Ping/ Liao Hua
Least favourite general: Guan Yu
Greatest dueller: Zhang Fei
Most overrated general: Ma Chao
Most underrated general: Wei Yan
Favourite strategist: Fa Zheng
Least favourite strategist: Ma Su
Greatest strategist: Fa Zheng
Most overrated strategist: Zhuge Liang
Most underrated strategist: Fa Zheng
Overall greatest general of the kingdom Shu: Zhang Fei

Wu:
Favourite general: Ling Tong/Sun Shao
Least favourite general: Gan Ning
Greatest dueller: Sun Jian/Sun Ce/Taishi Ci
Most overrated general: ???
Most underrated general: Ling Tong/Sun Shao/Xu Sheng
Favourite strategist: Lu Meng
Least favourite strategist: Zhang Zhao
Greatest strategist: Lu Xun
Most overrated strategist: ???
Most underrated strategist: Lu Kang
Overall greatest general of the kingdom Wu: Lu Xun

Wei:
Favourite general: Li Dian/ Pang De
Least favourite general: Yu Jin
Greatest dueller: Dian Wei/Xu Chu/Pang De
Most overrated general: Yu Jin
Most underrated general: Li Dian
Favourite strategist: Xun Yu
Least favourite strategist: Sima Yi
Greatest strategist: Jia Xu
Most overrated strategist: Sima Yi
Most underrated strategist: Jia Xu
Overall greatest general of Wei: Deng Ai

None three kingdoms:
Favourite general: Zhang Ren/Gao Shun
Least favourite general: Lu Bu
Greatest dueller: Gao Shun
Most overrated general: Lu Bu
Most underrated general: Gao Shun
Favourite strategist: Chen Gong/ Tian Feng
Least favourite strategist: Li Ru
Greatest strategist: Lu Zhi
Most overrated strategist: ???
Most underrated strategist: Tian Feng
Overall greatest general of none three kingdoms: Lu Zhi

Overall:
Favourite general: Li Dian
Least favourite general: Gan Ning
Greatest dueller: Zhang Fei
Most overrated general: Lu Bu
Most underrated general: Li Dian
Favourite strategist: Xun Yu
Least favourite strategist: Ma Su
Greatest strategist: Jia Xu
Most overrated strategist: Zhuge Liang
Most underrated strategist: Jia Xu/Fa Zheng
Overall greatest general of the three kingdoms era: Deng Ai
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Unread postby Liu Bei » Wed Dec 18, 2002 9:23 pm

Shu:
Favourite general: Liu Bei (but if you don't count him as a genreal)/Guan Yu
Least favourite general: ???
Greatest dueller: Zhang Fei
Most overrated general: ???
Most underrated general: Huang Zhong
Favourite strategist: Zhuge Liang
Least favourite strategist: Ma Su
Greatest strategist: Zhuge Liang/Pang Tong
Most overrated strategist: ???
Most underrated strategist: Pang Tong
Overall greatest general of the kingdom Shu: Zhao Yun

Wu:
Favourite general: Taishi Ci
Least favourite general: Zhu Ran
Greatest dueller: Sun Ce
Most overrated general: Gan Ning
Most underrated general: Huang Gai
Favourite strategist: Zhou Yu
Least favourite strategist: Lu Meng
Greatest strategist: Zhou Yu
Most overrated strategist: Lu Xun
Most underrated strategist: ???
Overall greatest general of the kingdom Wu: Taishi Ci

Wei:
Favourite general: Xaihou Dun
Least favourite general: Pang De
Greatest dueller: Zhang Liao
Most overrated general: Zhang He
Most underrated general: Cao Hong
Favourite strategist: ???
Least favourite strategist: Sima Yi
Greatest strategist: Sima Yi
Most overrated strategist: ???
Most underrated strategist: Gou Jai
Overall greatest general of Wei: Zhang Liao

None three kingdoms:
Favourite general: Gongsun Zan
Least favourite general: ???
Greatest dueller: Lu Bu
Most overrated general: Wen Chou
Most underrated general: ???

Sorry but i'm not sure of the rest.
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Unread postby Kong Renkuai » Wed Dec 18, 2002 10:00 pm

Shu:
Favourite general: Wei Yan
Least favourite general: Guan Yu
Greatest dueller: Zhang Fei
Most overrated general: Ma Chao
Most underrated general: Wang Ping and Zhang Yi
Favourite strategist: Fa Zheng
Least favourite strategist: Zhuge Liang
Greatest strategist: Fa Zheng
Most overrated strategist: Zhuge Liang
Most underrated strategist: Fa Zheng
Overall greatest general of the kingdom Shu: Wei Yan

Wu:
Favourite general: Zhou Tai
Least favourite general: None
Greatest dueller: Sun Ce/Taishi Ci
Most overrated general: None
Most underrated general: Ling Tong and Jiang Qin
Favourite strategist: Lu Xun
Least favourite strategist: None
Greatest strategist: Zhou Yu
Most overrated strategist: None
Most underrated strategist: Lu Kang
Overall greatest general of the kingdom Wu: Lu Kang

Wei:
Favourite general: Pang De and Zhang Liao
Least favourite general: None
Greatest dueller: Xu Chu/Pang De
Most overrated general: Yu Jin
Most underrated general: Zhang He
Favourite strategist: Xun Yu
Least favourite strategist: Sima Yi
Greatest strategist: Jia Xu or Xun Yu/Guo Jia
Most overrated strategist: Sima Yi
Most underrated strategist: Jia Xu
Overall greatest general of Wei: Deng Ai

None three kingdoms:
Favourite general: Zhang Ren/Gao Shun
Least favourite general: ???
Greatest dueller: Lu Bu/Yan Liang/Wen Chou
Most overrated general: Lu Bu
Most underrated general: Zhang Ren/ Gao Shun
Favourite strategist: Chen Gong or Xu You
Least favourite strategist: Li Ru
Greatest strategist: Chen Gong
Most overrated strategist: ???
Most underrated: Cheng Gong
Overall greatest general of none three kingdoms: Zhang Ren

Overall:
Favourite general: Zhang Liao/Zhou Tai/Zhou Yu
Least favourite general: Guan Yu/Ma Chao
Greatest dueller: Zhang Fei
Most overrated general: Guan Yu/Ma Chao
Most underrated general: Lu Kang/Zhang He
Favourite strategist: Fa Zheng/Zhou Yu
Least favourite strategist: Zhuge Liang
Greatest strategist: Fa Zheng/Zhou Yu
Most overrated strategist: Zhuge Liang
Most underrated strategist: Jia Xu/Fa Zheng
Overall greatest general of the three kingdoms era: Wei Yan/Lu Kang/Zhang Liao/Zhang He
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Unread postby Yuan Seth » Wed Dec 18, 2002 10:51 pm

Shu:
Favourite general: Zhao Yun
Least favourite general: Jiang Wei
Greatest dueller: Guan Yu
Most overrated general: Ma Chao
Most underrated general: Huang Zhong
Favourite strategist: Zhuge Liang
Least favourite strategist: Ma Su
Greatest strategist: Fa Zheng
Most overrated strategist: Zhuge Liang
Most underrated strategist: Fa Zheng
Overall greatest general of the kingdom Shu: Undecided

Wu:
Favourite general: Zhou Yu
Least favourite general: None
Greatest dueller: Taishi Ci
Most overrated general: None
Most underrated general: Cheng Pu/Han Dang
Favourite strategist: Zhou Yu
Least favourite strategist: None
Greatest strategist: Zhou Yu
Most overrated strategist: Lu Xun
Most underrated strategist: Zhang Zhao
Overall greatest general of the kingdom Wu: Anyone besides Lu Xun *cringes*

Wei:
Favourite general: Zhang He
Least favourite general: None
Greatest dueller: Xiahou Dun
Most overrated general: None
Most underrated general: Li Dian/Cao Hong
Favourite strategist: Xun Yu
Least favourite strategist: Sima Yi
Greatest strategist: Jia Xu
Most overrated strategist: Sima Yi
Most underrated strategist: Jia Xu
Overall greatest general of Wei: Xiahou Dun

None three kingdoms:
Favourite general: Yuan Shao/Gongsun Zan
Least favourite general: :lol: Fu Shiren :lol: (LMAO Lu Chang ;))
Greatest dueller: Lu Bu
Most overrated general: Lu Bu
Most underrated general: Chunyu Qiong
Favourite strategist: Feng Ji
Least favourite strategist: Li Ru
Greatest strategist: Tian Feng
Most overrated strategist: Chen Gong
Most underrated: Tian Feng/Feng Ji/Ju Shou
Overall greatest general of none three kingdoms: Zhang Ren

Overall:
Favourite general: Zhou Yu
Least favourite general: Zhuge Liang when he tries to be a general (lol)
Greatest dueller: Lu Bu
Most overrated general: Lu Bu
Most underrated general: Chunyu Qiong
Favourite strategist: Zhou Yu
Least favourite strategist: Li Ru
Greatest strategist: Jia Xu
Most overrated strategist: Zhuge Liang
Most underrated strategist: Jia Xu/Fa Zheng
Overall greatest general of the three kingdoms era: Cao Cao
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Unread postby Lu Chiang » Wed Dec 18, 2002 11:21 pm

SHU
Favourite general: Ma Chao
Least favourite general: Liu Chan if that counts as a general
Greatest dueller: Guan Yu
Most overrated general: Guan Yu
Most underrated general: Huang Zhong
Favourite strategist: Zhuge Liang
Least favourite strategist: Don't know
Greatest strategist: Zhuge Liang
Most overrated strategist: Zhuge Liang
Most underated strategist: Don't know
Overall greatest general of the kingdom Shu: Guan Yu

WU
Favourite general: Gang Ning
Least favourite general: none
Greatest dueller: Gang Ning
Most overrated general: Zhou Yu
Most underrated general: Huang Gai
Favourite strategist: Zhou Yu
Least favourite strategist: none
Greatest strategist: Zhou Yu
Most overrated strategist: Zhou Yu
Most underrated strategist: none
Overall greatest general of the kingdom Wu: Gang Ning

Wei
Favourite general: Xiahou Ba
Least favourite general: Xiaohou Yuan
Greatest dueller: Xu Chu
Most overrated general: Xiahou Dun
Most underrated general: Zhang He
Favourite strategist: Gia Xu
Least favourite strategist: Sima Ye
Greatest strategist: Sima Ye
Most overated strategist:Sima Ye
Most underrated strategist: Gia Xu
Overall greatest general of the kingdom Wei: Xiahou Ba

None three kingdoms
Favourite general: Zhu Rong<-----shes hot :lol:
Least favourite general: Fu Shiren :lol:
Greatest dueller: Lu Bu
Most overrated general: Lu Bu
Most underrated general: Zhu Rong
Favourite strategist: Ju Shou
Least favourite strategist: Yuan Shu
Greatest strategist: Ju Shou
Most overrated strategist: Ju Shou
Most underrated strategist: none
Overall greatest general of the three kingdoms: Lu Bu

Overall
Favourite general: Lu Bu
Least favourite general: Fu Shiren
Greatest dueller: Lu Bu
Most overrated general: Lu Bu
Most underrated general: Ma Chao
Favourite strategist: Zhuge Liang
Least favourite strategist: Sima Ye
Greatest strategist: Zhuge Liang
Most overrated strategist: Sima YE
Most underrated strategist: Gia Xu
Overall greatest general of the kingdom: Lu Bu
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Unread postby KINGSHAMOKE71 » Wed Dec 18, 2002 11:45 pm

Shu:
Favourite general: Wei Yan
Least favourite general: Guan Yu
Greatest dueller: Zhang Fei
Most overrated general: Guan Yu
Most underrated general: Tie between Liao Hua and Zhang Yi
Favourite strategist: Fa Zheng
Least favourite strategist: Kongming
Greatest strategist: Fa Zheng
Most overrated strategist: Kongming
Most underrated strategist: Pang Tong
Overall greatest general of the kingdom Shu: Wei Yan

Wu:
Favourite general: Gan Ning
Least favourite general: Zhou Tai
Greatest dueller: Sun Jiang
Most overrated general: ?
Most underrated general: Taishi Ci
Favourite strategist: Lu Xun
Least favourite strategist: Lu meng
Greatest strategist: Lu Xun
Most overrated strategist: Lu Meng
Most underrated strategist: Lu Kang
Overall greatest general of the kingdom Wu: Gan Ning

Wei:
Favourite general: Cao Hong
Least favourite general: Yu Jin
Greatest dueller: Xu Chu
Most overrated general: Yu Jin
Most underrated general: Li Dian
Favourite strategist: Guo Jia
Least favourite strategist: Sima Yi
Greatest strategist: Jia Xu
Most overrated strategist: Sima Yi
Most underrated strategist: Guo Jia
Overall greatest general of Wei: Zhang He

None three kingdoms:
Favourite general: Zhang Ren
Least favourite general: Lu Bu
Greatest dueller: Wen Chou
Most overrated general: Lu Bu
Most underrated general: Zhang Ren
Favourite strategist: Li Ru
Least favourite strategist: ?
Greatest strategist: Chen Gong
Most overrated strategist: ???
Most underrated: ???
Overall greatest general of none three kingdoms: Zhang Ren

Overall:
Favourite general: Liao Hua/Zhang Yi/Wei Yan
Least favourite general: Zhou Tai
Greatest dueller: Zhang Fei
Most overrated general: Guan Yu
Most underrated general: Liao Hua/Zhang Yi
Favourite strategist: Fa Zheng
Least favourite strategist: Kongming
Greatest strategist: Fa Zheng/Jia Xu
Most overrated strategist: Kongming
Most underrated strategist: Pang Tong
Overall greatest general of the three kingdoms era: Wei Yan/Gan Ning
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Unread postby Cao Ren » Thu Dec 19, 2002 12:33 am

oo cool

Shu:

Favorite General: Guan Yu
Least Favorite General: Wei Yan
Greatest Dueler: Zhang Fei
Most Overrated character: Zhao Yun
Most Underrated General: Zhang Ni
Favorite strategist: Kongming
Least Favorite Strategist: Jiang Wei or Ma Liang
Greatest Strategist: Kongming
Most Overrated Strategist: Kongming
Most Underrated Strategist: none
Overall greatest general of the kingdom Shu: Guan Yu


Wei:

Favorite General: Taishi Ci
Least Favorite: None
Greatest Dueler: they really didnt have too many great duelers so Taishi Ci
Most Overrated General: Gan Ning
Most Underrated General: Lu Meng
Favorite strategist: Zhou Yu
Least Favorite Strategist: Zhuge Jin's son(forget name)
Greatest Strategist: Lu XUn
Most overrated Strategist:none
Overall greatest general of the kingdom Wu: Taishi Ci

Wei

Favorite General: Zhang Liao
Least Favorite: Cao Shuang
Greatest Dueler: Xu Chu
Most Overrated General: Xiahou Yuan
Most Underrated General: Cao Ren
Favorite Strategist: Guo Jia
Least Favorite: none
Greatest Startegist: Sima Yi
Most Overrated Startegist: none
Most Underrated: Guo Huai
Overall greatest general of Wei: Zhang Liao or Xu Huang


None of the three kingdoms:

Favorite General: Meng Huo
Least Favorite: Guo Si
Greatest Dueler: Lu Bu
Most overrated Character: Lu Bu
Most Underrated general: none
Favorite Startegist: Chen Gong(how many othere were there)
Least Favorite:?
Greatest: Li Ru

Overall:
Favorite General: Taishi Ci
Least Favorite: Mi Fang
Greatest Dueller: Zhang Fei
Most Overrated: Xiahou Yuan
Most Underrated: Lu Meng
Favorite Strategist Guo Huai
Least favorite: Jiang Wei
Greatest Strategist: Kongming
Most Overrated: Kongming
Most Underrated: cant decide
Overall Favorite in the Three kingdoms era: Taishi Ci
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Unread postby KINGSHAMOKE71 » Thu Dec 19, 2002 1:31 am

Lu Meng under rated?

Gan ning over rated?

o..k...
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Unread postby Alucard » Thu Dec 19, 2002 8:16 pm

Shu:
Favourite general: Zhang Fei
Least favourite general: Ma Su
Greatest dueller: Guan Yu
Most overrated general: Ma Chao
Most underrated general: Zhang Yi and Ma Dai (just as little)
Favourite strategist: Pang Tong
Least favourite strategist: Ma Su
Greatest strategist: Fa Zheng
Most overrated strategist: Jiang Wei
Most underrated strategist: Fa Zheng
Overall greatest general of the kingdom Shu: Zhang Fei

Wu:
Favourite general: Taishi Ci
Least favourite general: Gan Ning
Greatest dueller: Taishi Ci
Most overrated general: Zhou Yu (just a little)
Most underrated general: Ling Tong
Favourite strategist: none
Least favourite strategist: Zhang Zhao
Greatest strategist: none
Most overrated strategist: none
Most underrated strategist: Lu Kang
Overall greatest general of the kingdom Wu: Cheng Pu, Han Dang, Taishi Ci, and Zhou Tai

Wei:
Favourite general: Xiahou Dun
Least favourite general: Xiahou Yuan
Greatest dueller: Xiahou Dun
Most overrated general: ???
Most underrated general: ???
Favourite strategist: Guo Jia
Least favourite strategist: Sima Yi
Greatest strategist: Guo Jia
Most overrated strategist: Sima Yi
Most underrated strategist: Jia Xu
Overall greatest general of Wei: Xiahou Dun and Guo Jia

None three kingdoms:
Favourite general: Zhang Ren
Least favourite general: Dong Zhou
Greatest dueller: Lu Bu/Yan Liang/Wen Chou
Most overrated general: ???
Most underrated general: Ma Teng
Favourite strategist: Chen Gong
Least favourite strategist: Li Ru
Greatest strategist: Chen Gong
Most overrated strategist: ???
Most underrated: Chen Gong
Overall greatest general of none three kingdoms: Zhang Ren

Overall:
Favourite general: Zhang Fei and Xiahou Dun
Least favourite general: Gan Ning
Greatest dueller: Zhang Fei and Guan Yu
Most overrated general: Ma Chao
Most underrated general: Fa Zheng
Favourite strategist: Guo Jia
Least favourite strategist: Ma Su
Greatest strategist: Zhuge Liang
Most overrated strategist: ???
Most underrated strategist: Jia Xu and Fa Zheng
Overall greatest general of the three kingdoms era: Zhang Fei, Guan Yu, Zhuge Liang and Guo Jia
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Unread postby Yuan Seth » Thu Dec 19, 2002 9:46 pm

KINGSHAMOKE71 wrote:Lu Meng under rated?

Gan ning over rated?

o..k...


These are merely opinions/views on what they see it as. You obviously have a different view than them.
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