Chinese Wiki Translations of People of Jin

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Re: Chinese Wiki Translations of People of Jin

Unread postby Tarrot » Sun May 18, 2014 9:04 am

Done with work-related stuff, time is back for me to do these.

Lu Ji http://zh.wikipedia.org/zh-hant/%E9%99%86%E6%9C%BA

Lu Yun http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%99%86%E4%BA%91

Ouyang Jian http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%AD%90% ... D%E5%BB%BA

Above 3 are links to add to guys who are on my post-280 list.



Cheng Wei http://baike.baidu.com/subview/635234/13606663.htm

Cheng Wei, zi Zhangyuan, from his youth he'd have good behavior, he was just and honest, and would be named by Liu Yi as a Duguan Congshi, and Liu Yi would memorialize that the Zhong Hujun Yang Xiu would violate the laws and should be put to death, and Sima Zhong had long been acquianted with Yang Xiu, so he'd send the king of Qi Sima Lun to talk to Yi, and Yi would permit it, but Cheng Wei would sternly say it was not possible, that he should take a chariot promptly to the army barracks to accept Yang Xiu, and to check for any hidden motives, to first memorialize that Yang Xiu had commited offence, then to record Yi's words, and this would shake the people across the land, the officials would be strict in their behavior, and force the public officials. Cheng Wei would be named governor of Anding and Dunqiu, and he'd earn merit for his governance, handling all affairs well there. He would fill a vacancy of Luoyang Ling, in addition to his positions of governor of Anding and Dunqiu, earning merits for all his work. He would die in office.
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Re: Chinese Wiki Translations of People of Jin

Unread postby Tarrot » Mon May 19, 2014 8:02 pm

Very short one, Xiahou Jun http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%A4%8F% ... F%E9%A7%BF

Xiahou Jun, Xiahou Wei's eldest son, he would be named the Provisional Governor of Bingzhou.

In 296, the Diqiong would rebel, lead by Qiwannian. In the 11th month, Sima Rong would be named Zhengxi Dajiangjun, Dudu of all Guanzhong military affairs; Zhou Chu would be named Jianwei Jiangjun, and would be under the Anxi Jiangjun Xiahou Jun. Sima Rong and Xiahou Jun would force Zhou Chu to go to battle, and refuse to provide reinforcements, which would cause Zhou Chu to die in battle.
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Re: Chinese Wiki Translations of People of Jin

Unread postby Tarrot » Tue May 20, 2014 8:49 pm

Yet another short one, Kong Xun http://baike.baidu.com/view/5214543.htm

Kong Xun (261-289), the specific times of birth and death are unclear, zi Shiyan, served in Jin.

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Because historical records were not passed on, all is knowabout Kong Xun is "Zi Shiyan, he was a Pingdong Jiangjun in Jin, as well as Weiwei." HIs father was Kong Yi, zi Yuanjun, whose family had tribute of 2,000 dou of rice, who would reach the rank of Dahonglu. As can be seen, Kong Xun was born to a top ranking family, and in addition because he had no significant merits, that is why he had nothing passed on. Additionally, Kong Xun in his youth held a government position, and before the third year of Taishi (roughly 268-269) was named Hujun Changshi. While he was a Hujun Jiangjun, his subordinates were office holders. But, in the third year of Taishi, he'd be appointed Taizi Zhong Shuzi, and begin to rise up political ranks. Along with Wang Ji, Wang Xun, and Yang Ji they would be known as the "XunxunJiji" of the "Period of Beautiful People." At the Taikang era, he would already have been named Pingdong Jiangjun as a Supervisor of the Yuzhou Junshi, and he'd become a major official. After a period of time he'd also be named Yushi Zhongcheng.
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Re: Chinese Wiki Translations of People of Jin

Unread postby Tarrot » Wed May 21, 2014 4:52 pm

Kong Yi http://baike.baidu.com/view/10776807.htm

Kong Yi zi Yuanjun, a decendent of Confucius. His great grandfather Kong Chou, zi Yuanju, was a Chenxiang. The Han Huandi had set up a shrine to Laozi at Lai county, and an image of Confucius would be drawn on the wall; Kong Chou would be named Chenxiang, and would set up the wall as before, but today it is gone. Kong Yi's grandfather and father all would have 2,000 dou of tribute, and Yi would be named Sanji Changshi. Kong Yi would present a memorial remonstrating the Emperor, and it'd be called the "Sanshaodi Ji" (record of the 3 small Emperors). He'd reach the position of Da Honglu. His son Kong Xun would be a scholar, and in Jin named Pingdong Jiangjun, as well as Weiwei.
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Re: Chinese Wiki Translations of People of Jin

Unread postby Tarrot » Wed May 21, 2014 7:09 pm

Xue Xu http://baike.baidu.com/view/988649.htm

Place of Birth: Yuzhou, Zhu county village in Pei county, modern-day Zhaojigu Mountain in Suixi county n Anhui.

Offices held: Weinan Jiangjun, Dadudu

Father: Xue Zong/Zeng

Born 207, died 270.

Biography:

In 261, Xue Xu would recieve an order from Wu to be trusted to go to Shu, and when he'd return he'd report to Sun Xiu on the state of Shu affairs: *warning: Old Chinese, poor translation inc* "The lord is stupid and is unaware of things that happen, the ministers care about their wellbeing and excuse all fault, to enter the court is to not hear true words, when you pass through the fields the people are starving." These words would describe the corruption of Shu.

Later he would be named a Wu Jiangzuo Dajiang, and instructed to construct the halls of the inside of a Buddhist temple. In 269, along with Yu Si and Tao Huang would lead men to attack Jiaozhi. On the way home he'd die of illness.
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Re: Chinese Wiki Translations of People of Jin

Unread postby Tarrot » Sat May 24, 2014 8:13 pm

Old Chinese is very annoying. Jiang Ban http://baike.baidu.com/view/165303.htm

Jiang Ban, a three kingdoms person, he'd be under the Cao-Wei Zhengdong Dajiangjun Zhuge Dan. At first he'd join Zhuge Dan's rebellion against Wei and later flee to Wu, but not long after he'd return to Wei. Later he'd participate in the final war against Wu.

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In 256, Guanqui Jian and Wen Qin would rebel, and Zhuge Dan would recieve a command to surpress them. Zhuge Dan would send Jiang Ban to attack, and kill the Wu general Liu Zan (tentative add) at Gupi, and from this he's recieve a Yinjie. Jiang Ban and Jiao Yi (check/add) were both men who helped plan things for Zhuge Dan. When Sima Zhao held power, Zhuge Dan would join with Wu to rebel. Both Jiao Yi and Jiang Ban would say to Zhuge Dan "Zhu Yi's large force will not be able to advance, Sun Chen will kill Yi and return to Jiangdong, in addition if he's to dispatch troops, if we let them in they must succeed or fail, and those troops will return. Now the hearts of the masses are hard, the soldiers are of use, if we combine this it will lead to death, and even though we can not use all their ability, it will be just as if." Wen Qin would say "Jiangdong will take advantage of the success and power, it has never been hard with the north. Moreover, there's over 10,000 men inside, and Wen Qin and Quan Dong will live and die together, the father, sons, and brothers woull be used up on the Jiang's surface, and Sun Chen will have no desires, how can the lord and his relatives agree with this? Morever there is no year and no affairs in China, the army and civilians are all weary, allow me to guard for a year, he already has power and strength, misfortune will arise, formerly and in accordance with today, we can count the days and hope." Jiao Ji, and Jiang Ban would engage in combat, Wen Qin would be angry, and Zhuge Dan would desire to kill Jiang Ban. The two men would fear him, and know Zhuge Dan would be defeated, so in the 11th month, they'd mutually abandon Zhuge Dan, would go over the walls and surrender. Later in Jin, in the first year of Taikang, he'd journey to attack Wu, the Wu army would retreat in confusion, and Xue Sheng in this confusion would be victorious.
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Re: Chinese Wiki Translations of People of Jin

Unread postby Jolt » Tue May 27, 2014 8:49 pm

Keep up the good work Tarrot, these are awesome.
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Re: Chinese Wiki Translations of People of Jin

Unread postby capnnerefir » Sat Sep 20, 2014 7:12 pm

Query: Was the Liu Kun who was a member of the 24 friends (link) and brother of Liu Yu
the same Liu Kun who fought against Wang Jun during the fall of Western Jin? (as mentioned in Wang Jun's bio here) Or were they two different people?
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Re: Chinese Wiki Translations of People of Jin

Unread postby vvill » Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:38 pm

capnnerefir wrote:Query: Was the Liu Kun who was a member of the 24 friends (link) and brother of Liu Yu
the same Liu Kun who fought against Wang Jun during the fall of Western Jin? (as mentioned in Wang Jun's bio here) Or were they two different people?


Not sure if you're still looking for a reply but yes, same person.

Stumbled across a good detailed bio of Liu Kun in "Ancient and Early Medieval Chinese Literature - A Reference Guide". Lots of sample pages are available online, including most of Liu Kun's entry. Starts around page 540.
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Re: Chinese Wiki Translations of People of Jin

Unread postby capnnerefir » Tue Sep 27, 2016 6:40 am

Thanks! I'll have to check that resource out for future reading.
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