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Re: Useful Online Resources

Unread postby Han » Thu Nov 22, 2018 7:25 am

Also as nice as it is to get books for free, libgen is not a legal source. I suggest removing the link to prevent any issues. It's been the target of numerous lawsuits in America. The UK has also attempted banning their URLs several times.


Oh wow......... Im sincerely sorry. I didnt know that it was straight up banned in the UK and had a crackdown in the USA until I just read up their wiki page. I always thought it was just one of the many torrent/piracy websites that Governments just close one eye and turn the other cheek.

If work is not legal, don't post it as could get the site into trouble. If your not sure about legality, please talk to staff before posting


Strictly noted. Again, Im truly apologetic for all the trouble that I had caused.
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Re: Useful Online Resources

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Thu Nov 22, 2018 8:39 am

Don't worry Han, you meant well and apology accepted, I just tend to take a careful approach as mod to anything that might have potential backfire.
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Re: Useful Online Resources

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Thu Nov 22, 2018 11:00 am

Sun Fin wrote:If someone wanted to compile a list of links to Rafe's works in the new site layout I'll edit them into the first page of my source list thread for easy access going forwards! If no-one has the time then no worries, I'll collect the links but no promises on when that will happen! :lol:


Are we talking 3kingdoms, fall of Han or do you want the early destruction of Northern Xiongnu and ladies of Emperor Huan as well?

Man From the Margin: Cao Cao (htlm format only)

portents of protest

an early work on Sima Guang's ZZTJ but with other version of names (I suggest skipping this one)

offical titles of Han

poems and rhapsody of the era

Southern China during the Han (html only)

Northern Frontier

The development of the Chinese Empire in the South : a discussion of the origins of the state of Wu of the Three Kingdoms

ZZTJ the Huan and Ling years

Generals of the South

Need to request copies of Recruitment Revisited:The Commissioned Civil Service of Later Han and adoption in Han China
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Unread postby Sun Fin » Thu Nov 22, 2018 11:40 am

Thank you Dong! That will make it a far more manageable job! Traditionally I've limited the list to the fall of the Han and the Three Kingdoms proper, starting at the Yellow Turbans. I could be inclined to stretch it as far as the ladies of Emperor Huan as that has direct implications on He Jin and his struggle with the eunuchs.

My last exam is on Monday, so I'll edit it all in then :D.
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Unread postby Dong Zhou » Sun Nov 25, 2018 7:48 am

Sun Fin wrote:Thank you Dong! That will make it a far more manageable job! Traditionally I've limited the list to the fall of the Han and the Three Kingdoms proper, starting at the Yellow Turbans. I could be inclined to stretch it as far as the ladies of Emperor Huan as that has direct implications on He Jin and his struggle with the eunuchs.

My last exam is on Monday, so I'll edit it all in then :D.


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Re: Useful Online Resources

Unread postby Sun Fin » Tue Nov 27, 2018 10:38 am

Putting this together now. I might be being daft here but I couldn't see To Establish Peace among your linked options Dong, is that no longer available?

EDIT: Sorry for being so lazy! I've found it myself.

Now I'm looking at RDC's page on the website I feel like there are even more I wish to add, probably won't do that today though!

Also I've decided not to add:
- 'official titles of Han' as it is a source focusing on the Early Han and I think there are better equivalent sources (like this book by Hans Bielenstein) which actually focuses on our period
- 'Southern China during the Han' as RDC comments himself that the first chapter of GOS is an expansion of the talk he gave.
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Re: Useful Online Resources

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Tue Nov 27, 2018 11:56 am

Fair enough

I put the ZZTJ in the first post on the subject, should have realized you might not have seen it. My bad
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Unread postby Sun Fin » Tue Nov 27, 2018 12:23 pm

Dong Zhou wrote:I put the ZZTJ in the first post on the subject, should have realized you might not have seen it. My bad


Certainly not your bad! It wouldn't be fair of me to expect you to account for my stupidity :lol:.

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Re: Useful Online Resources

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Wed Nov 28, 2018 1:32 pm

Missed these apparently Xun Yu and loyalty

Essay on three kingdoms the three kingdoms part and he separated Western Jin part
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Unread postby Sun Fin » Wed Nov 28, 2018 4:05 pm

Yeah, I noticed them - will edit them in next time I get a chance! Also realised I forgot the request ones! Will do that soon! :oops:
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