Biggest Traitor in the Three Kingdoms Era?

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Re: Biggest Traitor in the Three Kingdoms Era?

Unread postby Striga » Mon Oct 31, 2011 10:49 pm

Not very well known, but yes, Zhai Rong is quite the traitor. I did mean Zhang Kai, but Zhang Miao wasn't much good either.
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Re: Biggest Traitor in the Three Kingdoms Era?

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Tue Nov 01, 2011 7:32 am

In fairness, the one defection Zhang Miao did was due to fear he was going to be killed.
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Re: Biggest Traitor in the Three Kingdoms Era?

Unread postby Striga » Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:34 pm

How about killing his family?

Edit: I meant soldiers.

Edit2: NVM
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Re: Biggest Traitor in the Three Kingdoms Era?

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:41 pm

His family was killed when Zhang Chao's defence was finally broken?
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Re: Biggest Traitor in the Three Kingdoms Era?

Unread postby Striga » Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:27 pm

I meant soldiers. I have a very poor memory of the history.

Edit: NVM, I should have read it more thoroughly.
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Re: Biggest Traitor in the Three Kingdoms Era?

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:34 pm

Didn't they murder him?
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Re: Biggest Traitor in the Three Kingdoms Era?

Unread postby Striga » Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:37 pm

Now I feel blind. I should read through the facts more thoroughly. :oops: :oops: :oops:
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Re: Biggest Traitor in the Three Kingdoms Era?

Unread postby Shen Ai » Thu Nov 03, 2011 4:31 pm

Huang Hao was a pretty good traitor, but calling him that would be a little extreme as he didn't actually leave Shu and joined someone else.
Ma Chao was a traitor to everything his father worked towards. Does that count?
Dong Zhuo is the "Imperial traitor" as Cao Cao labelled him in the series.
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Re: Biggest Traitor in the Three Kingdoms Era?

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Thu Nov 03, 2011 6:56 pm

Ma Chao was a traitor to everything his father worked towards. Does that count?


I would rather go "traitor to the Qiang" then what his father was working for. Partly becuase it depends on what one deems Teng to work for.
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Re: Biggest Traitor in the Three Kingdoms Era?

Unread postby Striga » Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:48 pm

Shen Ai wrote:Huang Hao was a pretty good traitor, but calling him that would be a little extreme as he didn't actually leave Shu and joined someone else.
Ma Chao was a traitor to everything his father worked towards. Does that count?
Dong Zhuo is the "Imperial traitor" as Cao Cao labelled him in the series.


Pretty good traitor? Is that supposed to be an oxymoron? :lol:
I don't think Dong Zhuo was actually trying to betray the empire, but rather change it for the better, and benefit himself, although he got a bit too greedy.
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