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Unread postby Zhang Liao17 » Tue Jun 18, 2002 6:53 pm

Who was the most loyal officer of the RTK era?

My main choices are Zhang Liao, Guan Yu, Zhang Fei and Shen Pei.

Zhang Liao for serving Wei for so long and helping shape the Wei dynasty and defend it. Guan Yu and Zhang Fei for being loyal to their brother above all else and Shen Pei for never even considering joining Cao Cao but dying facing his lord in the north.

Who are your top picks?
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Unread postby James » Tue Jun 18, 2002 9:29 pm

People like Guan Yu, Zhang Fei, Zhou Yu, Ma Su, Shen Pei, and Zhang Liao. Especially officers that refused to join an enemy (like Cao Cao) because of loyalty to their lord.
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Unread postby Dennis » Tue Jun 18, 2002 10:01 pm

There is a pretty impressive group of loyalists.

Zhuge Liang, Zhuge Jin, Guan Yu, Zhang Fei, Tian Feng, Ju Shou, and Shen Pei all pop into my mind.
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Unread postby Azian Zenzation » Wed Jun 19, 2002 1:16 am

Hmmmm, I'll have to say Lu Bu.
He's the most loyal guy in the entire three kingdoms era.
No one is more loyal than Lu Bu.
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Unread postby Anshi » Wed Jun 19, 2002 1:36 am

Azian Zenzation wrote:Hmmmm, I'll have to say Lu Bu.
He's the most loyal guy in the entire three kingdoms era.
No one is more loyal than Lu Bu.


Is that supposed to be a sarcasm post?
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Unread postby James » Wed Jun 19, 2002 3:40 am

Azian Zenzation wrote:Hmmmm, I'll have to say Lu Bu.
He's the most loyal guy in the entire three kingdoms era.
No one is more loyal than Lu Bu.

This I never expected to read.
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Unread postby Dennis » Wed Jun 19, 2002 6:38 am

Anshi wrote:
Azian Zenzation wrote:Hmmmm, I'll have to say Lu Bu.
He's the most loyal guy in the entire three kingdoms era.
No one is more loyal than Lu Bu.


Is that supposed to be a sarcasm post?


I certainly hope it was. :lol:
If not someone has some reading to do!
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Unread postby Han Xin » Wed Jun 19, 2002 7:35 am

Zhuge Kongming wrote:People like Guan Yu, Zhang Fei, Zhou Yu, Ma Su, Shen Pei, and Zhang Liao. Especially officers that refused to join an enemy (like Cao Cao) because of loyalty to their lord.


I don't think you could seriously call Guan Yu loyal (well maybe to Wei)...He screw up everything his brother had build up for...

As for me Zhang Ren and Wei Yan (NO...This is not sarcasm)
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Unread postby Mega Zarak » Wed Jun 19, 2002 7:41 am

Han Xin wrote:I don't think you could seriously call Guan Yu loyal (well maybe to Wei)...He screw up everything his brother had build up for...

As for me Zhang Ren and Wei Yan (NO...This is not sarcasm)


Guan Yu could be said to be arrogant and careless (when things go wrong in Jing Zhou) but I don't think it's fair to say that he was disloyal because of that.

Zhang Ren was a good choice. He could have gotten higher status and riches if he joined Liu Bei but chose to join Hades instead.
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Unread postby xu xuesheng » Wed Jun 19, 2002 3:46 pm

I consider anybody who rather commit suicide than surrender loyal.
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