Besides, their workaround might still be necessary if you're using Win 7/8 in your VM under Win 10.
That's a great point, and I'm sorry that I missed it.
What bothered me is that you've turned up your nose at bellelda contribution and, at least to me, seemed too cocky over "your solution"
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to sound cocky, or 'turn up my nose' at bellelda. I began by thanking bellelda for the info (and then thanked bellelda again for the advice later in the post). I then offered feedback by proceeding to explain why it would not help those with Win 10, which is the topic of the thread. I don't see why this is turning up my nose?
As far as being cocky about my solution, it is pretty much the only solution for Win 10, right? I don't see why that makes me cocksure, though I do feel certain of the truth of it, and the linked article doesn't suggest anything different for a Win 10 user. But it's also true, as you pointed out, that updated Win 7 and 8.1 will be affected, and if they are used in VM, that can become a problem for the solution I support. I overlooked this consequence, and I apologize for that.
But then, it doesn't make it an accomplishment worth of a Pulitzer.
Oh come on man, I'm advertising a solution that worked, nothing more. It's the fact that there's a workable solution that's important, not that it came from me.
Sure you try compatibility mode first, but heirtothestar had already said it wasn't working for him
Of course, I had already been working on the problem myself before heirtothestar had posted, and had tried compatibility mode, which is why I mentioned that as one of the things I tried first. You'll see that I tried to confirm with heirtothestar if our problem was the same in all details when trying to work with compatibility mode.
(I know, I know, you haven't noticed the game was that old and released under XP)
Okay, now it seems to me like you are the one who is cocksure. I have been playing these games since the first installation in the series. So not surprisingly, I'm quite well aware of how old it is (and that it is still the best version, imho). I don't know why you should think you knew that I hadn't noticed such a thing. Just because it's old doesn't mean compatibility isn't worth a shot, and wouldn't be the easiest solution, though perhaps not the best.
So yes, on Win XP you have less bugs/crashs (although still far from perfect)
That's great to know! I haven't had too much of a problem with Win 7 yet, and from reading around, I see the unfortunately endless "building/destroying" phenomenon with the AI is a bug that will appear even if I use Win XP. I just try to avoid delegation, though I found this bug can appear if a human player's ruler is turned over to the AI at some point in a game. Very annoying.
I had seen the translation of the changelog before, but I thought perhaps the updates had been included from the outset with the English version, since it came out after the updates (I think?).
Sorry if I look aggressive
Very. I'm quite thankful for your work and contributions to translation, as well as the save information you've shared, but I have been very surprised by what I feel is an overly aggressive reaction to my posting. It makes me feel like you don't want to count my efforts as helpful or appreciated, which is funny, since you're accusing me of doing the same to bellelda. After all, you make a point of saying that you suggested the solution first, it's supposed to be the obvious solution, and you reference it as my solution with scare quotes. I did thank bellelda for the info, but I overlooked how it affected the solution I offered (the hosted Win 7 in VM), and so I'm guilty of not seeing how the info was genuinely helpful. I don't see that it makes me guilty of other things, like being arrogant or thinking I'm owed a Pulitzer. That's a bit over the top, don't you think? I just made an honest mistake.
but more than anything else I'm alerting to the fact that even using Win 7/8 in a VM under Win 10 many people will still have to do that workaround, be it because they updated their virtual Win7/8, be it because they downloaded an updated iso somewhere to put in their VM.
Again, this is a great point. I just wish you hadn't felt it necessary to try taking me to task along with this great point. Or really, it's the tone you take that I feel is undeserved. You could have pointed out my mistake, and I would have acknowledged it and offered an apology, and it would have proceeded and ended amicably. I'm sorry that you found my response to bellelda was somehow morally inappropriate, and I certainly didn't mean to demean bellelda or the offered advice. I do think it's a good thing that you spoke up to show how bellelda's advice is relevant for a Win 10 solution and that it's a valuable contribution.