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Unread postPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 4:22 am
by James
I don’t, yet. Kong Wen or Xiahou Mao know more. Maybe one of them is paying attention?

When I do know more I’ll certainly post it to KMA.

Unread postPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:42 pm
by Banishing Blade
Well, apparently, this method works:

LiuBang1992 wrote:i unlocked dong zhou's granddaughter zhang fei's wife liu chan's wife ma chao's wife guan yu's daughter cao pi's second wife and some others by completing rival warlords as sun quan(ce died) and cheated by banishing other forces officers

Found it on GameFAQs. The replies seem to justify the end result -- a few users have done it and received the secret characters (10 of them). As for who they are... boh. I'll try to get this done soon, but I've got a Cal III exam and an uncertainty analysis report due for Friday, and I might not have as much time (for now) as I anticipated.

The other eight guys are just unlocked via challenge scenarios but... well, for the YT one and the Huang Zu one, I came so close, and messed up one attack at the end (both times), and was too demoralized to try again. The Nanman one, I came kinda close, but was doomed to lose regardless. Jieting... forget it. And for Mai Castle, this is supposedly a foolproof strategy (also found on GameFAQs):

Eigan wrote:Mai Castle Escape:

Note that this is a pretty hilarious strategy that somehow works because of a 'homing device' on the AI's part, centered on their target Guan Yu. It revolves around using the waters and that mountain near the outpost as a barricade against the enormous amount of troops coming straight at him. What ends up happening is that most of the troops flank to the right of Jiang Ling, towards Wu Lin port, and eventually go into the waters and try to go around towards Han Jin.

First things first, center the map. I start off with Guan Yu heading northeast, towards Han Jin. I build a Crossbow Turret roughly halfway between the outpost and the port to greet those two units nearby. Someone else should be able to finish repairing the turret on the same turn. The rest of the troops should build embankments. I find that it isn't necessary to completely repair them, so long as they are plopped down to form a rough 'L' shaped barricade. I think three embankments should be enough (one north/northwest the outpost, and two southeast of it). If done right, watch as the AI hilariously flanks towards the right side of Jiang Ling. If they don't, wait until the second turn and move Guan Yu right beside the mountain near the port. I tend to put him to the southwest of Han Jin port's range.

By this point, the two nearby officers should be on land. Guan Suo's cavalry tactics should easily disable them while the rest of your troops make quick work of them. While you're making mincemeat out of those two units, most of Wu will take their sweet ol' time going past the port and trying to reach Han Jin to no avail. If at all possible, try to stay a little away from the embankments since bow units sometimes 'smarten' up and target a unit in their range instead. Just stay out of their range and you'll be fine.

When there's around 140 days left, you can make your move (130 days is feasible as well...haven't tried 120 days). If everything goes according to plan, there will be, ahem, a...boatload of troops bunched up near Wu Lin. There may be stragglers below the mountain but that's ok. It's important here to not move Guan Yu. Just let him sit idle as he contemplates the meaning of life while the rest of your units destroy the infrastructures. I tend to destroy the topmost buildings in order to pave the way for Guan Yu to make his run towards safety. The reinforcement units can be used to speed their destruction. If you want (and I do it for more hilarity), you can build some embankments that connect the nearby shipyard to the left with the rest of your embankments. They can be plopped down while approaching the buildings. It should become a mess of rock barriers. At this point, the units situated on water should try to circle back around towards Jiang Ling.

Destroy the structures quickly while inching Guan Yu slowly towards them. You may have to adjust around here to make sure that the AI doesn't make any unnecessary distractions. Around 100 days or so remaining should be enough for Guan Yu to finally make his run towards the finish. Just run him towards the west while using other officers' tactics to get Guan Yu there swiftly. You should easily be able to escort Guan Yu with all your units towards the end.

If you want, you can build another set of embankments that prevents all those troops to the right from pursuing Guan Yu while he makes his run.

It is entirely possible to reach the end without losing a single officer. In fact, the whole strategy outlined here reduces this so-called 'hard' challenge into something ridiculously easy. I've tried this strategy three times, and I've been able to win the scenario every single time. Of course, some may consider this whole thing cheap, in which case, just go ahead and finish it normally, through a lot of crossbow turrets, fire, and good, old-fashioned carnage.

Hopefully, that'll help.

Unread postPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 2:16 am
by Banishing Blade
I'm sorry for the lack of production. I've just finished an engineering physics uncertainty analysis report *shoots self*, and now I'm off to study for a Cal III exam tomorrow. This weekend should get me back on track.

Unread postPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 2:49 am
by James
No worries. :)

Unread postPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 2:45 am
by Banishing Blade
Courtesy of GameFAQs. I won't be entering those biographies though; I don't like submitting anything I myself haven't checked upon. It limits a lot of my work, both academically and otherwise, but whatever :P

Sugand wrote:Dong Bai
Ldr: 9 War: 7 Int: 48 Pol: 56 Chr: 74
Skill: Wealth
Personality: Timid
Bio: Dong Zhuo's granddaughter. When Dong Zhuo was assassinated, all of his relatives, young and old alike, were murdered. When Dong Zhuo held political power and his whole family was being given high government positions, Dong Bai was given territory as the Wei Yang Lord before she reached the age of fifteen. After the seal presentation, chief retainers such as commanders, intendants and governors became her advisors. After Dong Zhuo's death, his mother, father, wife, children and siblings were all wiped out.

Du Shi
Ldr: 14 War: 3 Int: 52 Pol: 48 Chr: 82
Skill: Spousal Support
Personality: Cool
Bio: The wife of Qin Yilu, Lu Bu's officer, Qin Lang's mother. She later became Cao Cao's concubine. While Du Shi's husband was away seeing Yuan Shu as an envoy, she remained home in Xia Pi. With her great beauty, she became Cao Cao's concubine when Lu Bu lost and died in Xia Pi. Her child, Qin Lang, was raised in Cao Cao's court and treated with affection. While Guan Yu had Lu Bu besieged at Xia Pi, he asked Cao Cao many times to let him have Du Shi for his wife.

Guan Yinping
Ldr: 70 War: 82 Int: 52 Pol: 56 Chr: 78
Skill: Escape Route
Personality: Reckless
Father: Guan Yu
Bio: Guan Yu's daughter. She appears in popular folklore as having the bravery of her father and participating in Zhuge Liang's conquest of Nanman. When there was a suggestion of a marriage proposal between Sun Quan's son and Guan Yu's daughter. Guan Yu refused, saying "How can I give a tiger's daughter to a dog's whelp?" This angered Sun Quan, and was one of the reasons Sun Quan's Forces invaded Jing Province.

Guo Shi
Ldr: 32 War: 6 Int: 79 Pol: 74 Chr: 85
Skill: Siren
Personality: Cool
Bio: Cao Pi's Empress. Her father was Guo Yong. Her mother was Dong Shi. Guo Shi was extremely beautiful. Because Guo Yong bragged that his daughter was "the king of women," she was called "Queen." When Cao Pi became the Wei Emperor, Guo Shi was favored by him as his concubine. After conspiring with Zhang Tao to have Cao Pi execute Zhen Shi, Guo Shi became Empress. She was childless, but raised Zhen Shi's son Cao Rui. Guo Shi lost both of her parents young and her status dropped, but she was singled out by Cao Cao and came to serve Cao Pi. She helped Cao Pi with her excellent strategizing abilities, and made efforts to have him chosen as successor. With her modest personality, Guo Shi was popular with the court as well, but Cao Rui, his mother having been executed, hated Guo Shi. Some even say she was killed so that Cao Rui could get revenge.

Li Shi
Ldr: 34 War: 18 Int: 68 Pol: 74 Chr: 72
Skill: Resolute
Personality: Bold
Spouse: Ma Miao
Bio: Wife of Ma Miao. Protector of Jiang You Guan of Shu. Scolded her husband after he failed to respond to Deng Ai of Wei's attack on Jiang You Guan as she feared the fall of Shu. Her husband officially surrendered to Deng Ai, forcing her to hang herself and commit suicide, gaining profound respect from Deng Ai.

Lu Yusheng
Ldr: 22 War: 33 Int: 71 Pol: 70 Chr: 80
Skill: Clear Thought
Personality: Cool
Father: Lu Ji
Bio: The daughter of Lu Ji of Wu. Lu Yu Sheng was so named because she was born while her father was away at his post in Yu Lin. She was the wife of Zhang Bai. Zhang Wen's younger brother. Lu Yu Sheng married Zhang Bai, who was from the same province, at the age of thirteen. Three months after getting married, Zhang Bai was implicated in an incident that involved his whole family, was exiled and died in his place of exile, making Lu Yu Sheng a widow. She vowed to remain faithful to him, however. No matter how hard life got, she refused all proposals of remarriage and continued to serve Zhang Bai's sister.

Pang E
Ldr: 52 War: 76 Int: 74 Pol: 70 Chr: 78
Skill: Capture
Personality: Bold
Bio: The eldest daughter of Zhao An. The wife of Pang Zixia. Also known as "Pang E Qin." When Li Shou killed her father, she and her three younger brothers planned revenge. The younger brothers all died from the plague, however, and Li Shou, thinking she was safe, carlessly let her guard down. On hearing of this, Pang E vowed never to let Li Shou live. In 179, she killed Li Shou in broad daylight, and then calmly and immediately turned herself in at a government office. She was ready to submit to her sentence, but wasn't punished in the end. Hearing about Pang E's story, men such as the Governor of Liang Province, Zhou Hong, the Prefect of Jiu Quan, Liu Ban, and an undersecretary, Zhang Huan, all expressed their respect for her.

Xiahou Shi
Ldr: 13 War: 5 Int: 62 Pol: 68 Chr: 74
Skill: Detection
Personality: Cool
Spouse: Zhang Fei
Bio: Xiahou Yuan's niece. Xiahou Ba's cousin. Zhang Fei's wife. The mother of Zhang Shi, Liu Chan's Empress. In the year 200, when Xiahou Shi was thirteen or fourteen, she was captured by Zhang Fei when out collecting firewood, and became his wife. In 219, when Xiahou Yuan died in battle, Xiahou Shi asked to bury the reamins, Xiahou Ba(who later defected to Shu) was given preferential treatment because he was Xiahou Shi's cousin, and was promoted to Marshal.

Yang Shi
Ldr: 6 War: 16 Int: 42 Pol: 48 Chr: 72
Skill: Breeding
Personality: Cool
Spouse: Ma Chao
Bio: The wife of Ma Chao. When Ma Chao lost to Cao Cao in the battle at Wei Shui and occupied Ji Cheng, Yang Shi followed her husband into the fortress. But Yang Fu, Zhao Ang and others were out to get Ma Chao, and raised an army against him. While Ma Chao was trying to bring them under control, Liang Kuan and Zhao Qu captured Yang Shi. When Ma Chao returned to the fortress defeated, Yang Shi and their three children were murdered right in front of him. After Yang Shi entered the fortress at Ji Cheng, she came to trust Zhao Ang's wife, Wang Yi, and they became so close they would talk the whole day through. But this was Wang Yi's plot to help her husband while he was raising an army, and gave Zhao Ang and the others a chance to prepare to take up arms without raising Ma Chao's suspicion.

Zhang Shi
Ldr: 56 War: 79 Int: 58 Pol: 66 Chr: 78
Skill: Promotion
Personality: Bold
Father: Zhang Fei
Mother: Xiahou Shi
Husband: Liu Chan
Bio: Zhang Fei's eldest daughter. Liu Chan's Empress(Empress Jing'ai). Her mother was Xiahou Shi(Xiahou Ba's cousin). When Liu Chan became Emperor, according to the advice of Zhuge Liang and others, Zhang Shi became his Empress at the age of seventeen. In the year 221, Zhang Shi entered the court as the consort of the Crown Prince Liu Chan. In 223, she became Empress. She died in 237, and her younger sister became Liu Chan's Empress.

Unread postPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 4:03 am
by Jebusrocks
oh, do we enter in their Stats and their specialties??

Unread postPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 4:47 am
by Kong Wen
I thought the project just called for the biographies (i.e. the biographical blurbs in the "biography" section of the character info).

Unread postPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 4:44 pm
by James
Correct. We simply enter the biographies. They could be copied from the entries above with some small editing for standards. For example, the corrections in parenthesis should be in brackets [] and have spaces on either side, unless the sentence ends to the right (with a period), in which case it should look like this: “Zhang Yue [Zhang He].”

Unread postPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 10:17 pm
by Banishing Blade
What do I do for officers who do not have a particular 'entry' area? For example, I cannot seem to find a Bao Sanniang / Mei Sanniang anywhere, nor can I find a Cheng Gongying or a Ji Yong. I'm not familiar with either of the latter two officers, so whether or not they go by different names, I don't know.

What should I do in this case?

Unread postPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 10:19 pm
by James
Some people will need to be added to the development project.
Thank you for pointing those instances out. :)