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Unread postby Stuart » Wed Mar 19, 2003 7:17 pm

The translation of the book i have is the Thomas Cleary translation. Its actually quite good and with the commentaires by other figures it adds an extra richness to it

(Paperback)ISBN:0-87773-452-6
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Unread postby Cherry_Blossom » Thu Mar 20, 2003 5:17 am

The translation of the book i have is the Thomas Cleary translation. Its actually quite good and with the commentaires by other figures it adds an extra richness to it


I looked this book up but Amazon says it isn't there yet..not until June I guess. :cry:

Does yours have the annotations in it by Cao Cao? I mean if I am going to buy the book I mayaswell go for the one that has as many top Chinese historical figures in it as possible. :D ..of course then Sun Pin is needed too...
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Unread postby Stuart » Thu Mar 20, 2003 7:03 am

My translation contains commantaries by the following figures: Cao Cao, Meng Shi, Jia Lin, Li quan, Du you, Du mu, Zhang Yu, Mei yaochen, Chen hao and Ho yanxi. It is published by shambhala http://www.shambhala.com

If you live in the UK i would go to a one of the big bookstores like Waterstones
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Unread postby Cherry_Blossom » Thu Mar 20, 2003 7:57 am

Thanks that sounds like exactly the book I am looking for..I made a mistake at Amazon..I saw a new book coming out called the complete something or other with the Art of War. I hate to be a bother but is this the same one you got? http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/de ... ct-details

I don't want to make any mistakes..I was this meticulous in buying LGZ's book too. :lol: Thanks for all your help!
Short version of a quote by Thales:
Of all things;God = most ancient;he is uncreated,Universe=most beautiful;God's work,Space=greatest;holds all,Swiftest=mind;speeds
everywhere,Strongest=necessity;masters all,Wisest=time; brings all things to light
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Unread postby Rhiannon » Thu Mar 20, 2003 11:48 am

Cherry_Blossom wrote: I hate to be a bother but is this the same one you got? http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/de ... ct-details


That'd be the exact one. I also have that version of The Art of War, and it's absolutely wonderful. I've spent hours just reading the introduction (which includes said wonderful quotes from other figures).
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Unread postby Cherry_Blossom » Thu Mar 20, 2003 12:06 pm

Thanks everyone!! I just ordered it now! :lol: (heck right now I ordered this one to buy,have two on hold at the library and one borrowed form the library now! :lol: I love the book and wanted to find the best possible one!)
Short version of a quote by Thales:
Of all things;God = most ancient;he is uncreated,Universe=most beautiful;God's work,Space=greatest;holds all,Swiftest=mind;speeds
everywhere,Strongest=necessity;masters all,Wisest=time; brings all things to light
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Chinese Warfare

Unread postby dej2 » Fri May 16, 2003 2:50 pm

Here is an interesting artical on Chinese Warfare. The paper is by Ralph D. Sawyer one of today's leading authors on ancient Chinese warfare.

I think I saw in this thread... someone mentioned "The Complete Art of War" that is a book also by Sawyer and contains Sun Tzu and Sun Pin books together in the same volumn.

In the early 1970's, archaeologists excavating the Han dynasty tomb of a high-ranking official discovered a large number of bamboo slips. The military works among them included major portions of several of the Seven Military Classicsand extensive fragments of Sun Pin's Military Methods. Although this book--by Sun Tzu's descendant-- appeared in the bibliographic listings compiled in the Han Dynasty, it had apparently vanished in the Han and had been lost for over 2000 years.

I really enjoy Sawyers books because he has a lot of his own comments and insites included into his books. He often uses examples of battles fought in Chinas past.
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Unread postby dej2 » Mon Jun 02, 2003 8:01 pm

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Unread postby CHEVIVE111 » Wed Mar 31, 2004 4:05 am

i have heard Zhuge Liang has a great book. Che Guevaras warfare book. Che was a genius when it came to ambushs and suprise attacks. It was reccomended to me before but i havent read it yet.

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Unread postby twiztidscholar45 » Fri Apr 02, 2004 2:58 am

Im pretty sure this is write but is zhuge liangs mastering the art of war just a get to the point of sun tzus the art of war?
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