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Unread postby KingofWei&Wu » Tue Aug 03, 2004 8:20 pm

I have a question. I have a book called Ancient Times: A History of the Early World. It's quite old, it was published in 1916, and I just recently found out that the author was a renowned historian, James Henry Breasted. I'm wondering about the rarity of this book and if anyone knows if it might be worth something.
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Unread postby Ranbir » Tue Aug 03, 2004 8:36 pm

As worth as a book normally is.

It was republished last year. Thats going at about $30. You can show off, though, that you've got the original version.
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Looking for a US law case

Unread postby yume » Mon Aug 23, 2004 8:07 am

I'm looking for the following US case:
Phoenix Founders, Inc. v. McClellan, 887 SW.2d 831 (Tex. 1994)

Could someone help me please? I couldn't find it on google. I know it can be found on LexisNexis etc, but I just need only this case once and for all, so I don't want to subscribe to it.

If someone has subscription, could you please kindly post the case here or PM it to me? Thanks a lot!

I know it is a long shot, but it doesn't hurt trying :)
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Re: Looking for a US law case

Unread postby Humble Fisherman » Mon Aug 23, 2004 7:08 pm

yume wrote:I'm looking for the following US case:
Phoenix Founders, Inc. v. McClellan, 887 SW.2d 831 (Tex. 1994)

Could someone help me please? I couldn't find it on google. I know it can be found on LexisNexis etc, but I just need only this case once and for all, so I don't want to subscribe to it.

If someone has subscription, could you please kindly post the case here or PM it to me? Thanks a lot!

I know it is a long shot, but it doesn't hurt trying :)


I have a copy of the decision.

PM me your E-mail and I'll forward it on.
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Unread postby Ghost_of_Han » Fri Sep 03, 2004 3:27 pm

Does anyone know where I can find a copy of "The plum in the golden vase" that is in Pinyin. Not that stupid Wade giles romanzation?
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Unread postby Ranbir » Fri Sep 03, 2004 5:11 pm

I'm not sure myself, the book is very rare. I found the ISBN number however, ISBN:0785950176.

Try places specialising in Chinese literature.
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Unread postby Seven at One Stroke » Sat Oct 02, 2004 4:09 pm

I have a question on copyrights. If I am writing an essay and I use some quotes from others' works, assume that I have cited and referenced them correctly, do I need to obtain permission to use these quotations to publish my work? What if I am quoting a substantial amount of another person's work (1 page or so)? What about in informal settings such as a internet message board or chatroom, etc?
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Unread postby Ranbir » Sat Oct 02, 2004 4:17 pm

There shouldn't be a problem if you referenced it properly. The owner of the original material may however, request you not use it.
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Unread postby Duncan » Wed Oct 06, 2004 4:38 pm

Seven at One Stroke wrote:I have a question on copyrights. If I am writing an essay and I use some quotes from others' works, assume that I have cited and referenced them correctly, do I need to obtain permission to use these quotations to publish my work? What if I am quoting a substantial amount of another person's work (1 page or so)? What about in informal settings such as a internet message board or chatroom, etc?


Sorry I missed this before, I was elsewhere on the site :) . As I'm partly responsible for this at work as well, here's some broad guidelines:

If you have copied it and are presenting it as a direct facsimile (ie scanned pages from a book) you could be considered in breach of copyright.

If you present it in a modified form (ie in quotation marks with full references attached), it really depends on how much you are quoting. Less than 10% of the original work, or one chapter or less from a book with more than 10 chapters is a fairly good rule of thumb.

If you are not making any money out of what you are reproducing, or not reducing the income of the copyright owner by publishing the key part of a saleable work, they have to prove damages against you.

The copyright owner has the right not to have their name brought into disrepute by you using and publishing their work without permission. There are plenty of cases of non-financial damages for copyright being rewarded through the courts by massive fines, so be particularly careful on this one.

If you're clear on all points you are (probably) OK to use on the web, but don't sue me! :wink:

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Unread postby Mr. Counsellor » Wed Oct 06, 2004 5:39 pm

Sun Hua wrote:
Seven at One Stroke wrote:I have a question on copyrights. If I am writing an essay and I use some quotes from others' works, assume that I have cited and referenced them correctly, do I need to obtain permission to use these quotations to publish my work? What if I am quoting a substantial amount of another person's work (1 page or so)? What about in informal settings such as a internet message board or chatroom, etc?


Sorry I missed this before, I was elsewhere on the site :) . As I'm partly responsible for this at work as well, here's some broad guidelines:

If you have copied it and are presenting it as a direct facsimile (ie scanned pages from a book) you could be considered in breach of copyright.

If you present it in a modified form (ie in quotation marks with full references attached), it really depends on how much you are quoting. Less than 10% of the original work, or one chapter or less from a book with more than 10 chapters is a fairly good rule of thumb.

If you are not making any money out of what you are reproducing, or not reducing the income of the copyright owner by publishing the key part of a saleable work, they have to prove damages against you.

The copyright owner has the right not to have their name brought into disrepute by you using and publishing their work without permission. There are plenty of cases of non-financial damages for copyright being rewarded through the courts by massive fines, so be particularly careful on this one.

If you're clear on all points you are (probably) OK to use on the web, but don't sue me! :wink:

Pm me if you need any more.



i used to do that with my old reports... the part about directly quoting someone's work... i just add a little line under the whole thing that says where it came from... pretty much if my prof's cool with it, i dont consider myself remotely close to getting a lawsuit, and if i am, hell, i'd have them blame my prof for allowing lil' innocent me to do that...
i sometimes put a carton of milk in the dryer so that there's an equal distribution of the force shaking it. Tastes like lint though...
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