Books on Chinese literature, history, and strategy.

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Unread postby Tianshan Zi » Sun Sep 09, 2007 6:28 am

yoshitsune wrote:3.) lu shi chun qiu 吕氏春秋 - a novelised version of history written by a prominent figure in the period.

Don't know if any of them is translated into English, so if anyone knows about this, please post.

This work is available in English via Stanford UP.

cao cao#1 wrote:where might I purchase the following books

Sanguo Zhi ( annals of the three kingdoms)

When you spot an English translation, let me know ASAP!

cao cao#1 wrote:The generall history for the aid of goverment by Sima Guang if this has even been translated.

I have a very old Harvard copy of this work, and it picks up where de Crespigny leaves off with "To Establish Peace" (see below).

cao cao#1 wrote:Generals of the South: The Foundation and Early History of the Three Kingdoms State of Wu (Faculty of Asian Studies Monographs) (Paperback)
by Rafe de Crespigny

De Crespigny's work may be had for free here: http://asianstudies.anu.edu.au/Early_Imperial_China
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Unread postby Jer » Tue Nov 20, 2007 3:27 am

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Unread postby Octavius » Thu Jan 24, 2008 3:20 am

i dont know if this is somewhere in this thread but does anyone know where i could puchase some of ZhuGe Liang's books on strategy and how much they might cost
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Unread postby nerazzurri » Fri Mar 14, 2008 8:33 pm

you can get zhuge liang's "mastering the art of war" off amazon, he expands on Sun Tzu's thoughts and its a decent read.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mastering-Art-W ... 808&sr=8-4
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Unread postby Tony_Han » Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:59 pm

Does anyone have any suggestions on how to find The Twenty-Four Histories? It is a collection of Chinese historical books covering a period of history from 3000 BC to the Ming Dynasty in the 17th century.
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Unread postby James » Tue Jul 01, 2008 1:07 am

For anyone curious about this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-Four_Histories

How do you want to 'get' them?
Own them? In what language?
Read them? Most are online, at least.
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Unread postby Tony_Han » Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:06 am

I would like to study them in english if possible. I am extremely interested in the Records of Three Kingdoms, compiled by Chen Shou 陳壽 in 289. I would like to see a more objective factual outlook of the Three Kingdoms era.
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Unread postby James » Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:26 am

Tony_Han wrote:I would like to study them in english if possible. I am extremely interested in the Records of Three Kingdoms, compiled by Chen Shou 陳壽 in 289. I would like to see a more objective factual outlook of the Three Kingdoms era.

The best you can do is buy:

A Bibliographical Dictionary of the Later Han to Three Kingdoms (23–220 AD)
— Dr. Rafe de Crespigny

Also wonderful, with full translations of biographies for the women of the Three Kingdoms, background information on the Sanguozhi (Records of the Three States by Chen Shou), associated authors (Chen Shou, Pei Songzhi), and useful information on interpreting what is actually written:

Empresses and Consorts: Selections from Chen Shou's Records of the Three States With Pei Songzhi's Commentary
— Robert Joe Cutter and William G. Crowell

You can read quite a bit from the Sanguozhi in our Biographies section:
http://kongming.net/novel/bios/ (Look for Sanguozhi links).

Our Three Kingdoms Encyclopedia is an excellent resource for looking up information on officers. It is also a great way to find some highly detailed historic discussions in this forum which can be even more informative than biographies in many cases (as participants cross-reference relevant details from numerous sources).

You can find more Sanguozhi translations at the 3Kingdoms Frontier.

There is currently no complete English translation of the Sanguozhi. (But Rafe’s work is the next best thing, as it also draws from the Hou Han shu and other great histories).

If you can read Chinese the whole work is available online.
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Unread postby Tony_Han » Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:26 pm

Does anyone have a link to a downloadable chinese version of The Records of Three Kingdoms?
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Unread postby Sean » Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:12 pm

Does anyone know if an English translation of the Condor Heroes trilogy exists? I have no interest (not to mention the lack of knowledge) to read it in Chinese. If there are no English translations...I guess I'll just watch the TV series.
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