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Unread postby Korin » Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:40 am

Why do humans get the urge? It's very annoying. I don't like it, so that's why I made this topic - it's just wrong and annoying to do since I wish I never do it, because I want to live normal life and not be controlled by it, willpower can only get you so far.
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Re: Masturbation

Unread postby Shikanosuke » Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:56 am

Korin wrote:Why do humans get the urge? It's very annoying. I don't like it, so that's why I made this topic - it's just wrong and annoying to do since I wish I never do it, because I want to live normal life and not be controlled by it, willpower can only get you so far.



Why is this in this forum and not in the science question thread? Humans get the urge because its a natural desire. It isn't 'wrong' in any sense, and if you don't want to don't. It is part of a normal life. Lets move this to the scientific questions thread, mods?
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Re: Masturbation

Unread postby Sun Fin » Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:22 am

Korin wrote:Why do humans get the urge? It's very annoying. I don't like it, so that's why I made this topic - it's just wrong and annoying to do since I wish I never do it, because I want to live normal life and not be controlled by it, willpower can only get you so far.


Will power can get you very far, it got me to the age of 21 with barely thinking about it and just having the occasional wet dream. After experimenting for a few months I decided I didn't like how sexually obsessed it was making me (I'm not saying that is an affect on everyone, just me) and I'm on a month dry spell.
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Re: Masturbation

Unread postby SunXia » Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:15 pm

It is actually very very natural and healthy, especially for men, it release endorphin which is very good for stress!!

Also, Fin, given you have not...experimented, it is natural to go through that obsessed, hormonal phase too!! Like anything that is new and...forgive the pun, but climatically enjoyable, you will be obsessed with it for a bit!! It's like the honeymoon phase of a relationship/marriage, during that time you can barely keep your hands off one another, it's very passionate!!It's also one of the ways a man learns to control and extend their own excitement!! Naturally, it will die out to a not-as-regular activity!!
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Re: Masturbation

Unread postby Shikanosuke » Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:29 pm

SunXia wrote:It is actually very very natural and healthy, especially for men, it release endorphin which is very good for stress!!


Indeed. I'd even wager its probably not healthy to not have a sexual outlet. I can't see any reason not to that isn't tied to archaic religious reasoning.


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Re: Masturbation

Unread postby James » Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:42 pm

Korin wrote:[...] because I want to live normal life [...]

I think the 'normal' in there gets to the heart of your question. It's a biological urge nearly all of us have—especially the guys among us. I do know some people who, for one reason or another, don't really have that biological urge, though. But in that sense, who is to say it isn't normal?
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Re: Masturbation

Unread postby Sun Fin » Wed Apr 24, 2013 3:26 pm

So I guess my problem with masturbation is more to do with the use of porn that normally goes with it and how that changes your perspective on the opposite sex and how it can lead you to having often unrealistic fantasies.

Does that make sense? I’m still exploring how I feel on the whole issue and tentatively trying to come to a conclusion.
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Re: Masturbation

Unread postby epaminondas146871 » Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:13 pm

Korin wrote:Why do humans get the urge? It's very annoying. I don't like it, so that's why I made this topic - it's just wrong and annoying to do since I wish I never do it, because I want to live normal life and not be controlled by it, willpower can only get you so far.


I could say that about anything. In fact, if this thread weren't titled Masturbation, I'd have no idea what you were talking about simply based on your statements. Why do humans get the urge to play video games? Why do humans get the urge to pig out on junk food? I want to live a normal life - free of video game and junk food addictions controlling me.

Sun Fin wrote:So I guess my problem with masturbation is more to do with the use of porn that normally goes with it and how that changes your perspective on the opposite sex and how it can lead you to having often unrealistic fantasies.


Out of curiousity, why do you think that porn is bad?
And I think it would be the contrary - someone without an outlet would be having more unrealistic fantasies. I doubt it would change perspective on the opposite sex though.

SunXia wrote:It is actually very very natural and healthy, especially for men, it release endorphin which is very good for stress!!


It also helps to open swollen sinus passages associated with stuffy noses due to a cold or allergies. Not as if I'd know or anything... :lol:
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Re: Masturbation

Unread postby Human5 » Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:14 pm

Is this really a current affair?

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Re: Masturbation

Unread postby Sun Fin » Thu Apr 25, 2013 10:17 am

epaminondas146871 wrote:[

Out of curiousity, why do you think that porn is bad?
And I think it would be the contrary - someone without an outlet would be having more unrealistic fantasies. I doubt it would change perspective on the opposite sex though.


This:

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That's kind of an extreme attitude. Sex is pleasurable, there's no reason why it shouldn't be - to say it's only for reproducing is to reduce it to something mechanical, in the exact same way as saying that it's only for getting pleasure. Sun Fin is completely right, the Church doesn't teach one thing or the other, but that both are needed (in addition to being expressed within the sacrament of marriage) for a healthy attitude toward sex.

That said, there does need to be a close conceptual link between love, marriage, sex and childrearing in the public sphere for sex to have healthy expression. A huge problem in modern society is that sex has been systematically severed from love (via pornography and prostitution), from marriage (via the 'hook-up' culture) and from childrearing (via birth control technologies and no-fault divorce) and treated as a saleable commodity and a multi-billion dollar industry.

Skin and the promise thereof is now used to sell everything from soap to beer to cars, but that's only the tip of the iceberg. The thin, modern logic of sex as something marketable and separate from real and lasting human relationships directly benefits big pharma (who produces all those condoms and boner pills?), the porn industry, the prostitution industry, the human trafficking industry (these three all being closely interlinked - so much for 'victimless crime') and the abortion industry... and it hurts a hell of a lot of people, who are threatened, cajoled or kidnaped into selling their bodies, or who are bullied or peer-pressured into sex when they aren't ready, who are pressured by their families or significant others into terminating their children when they don't want to, or who are conditioned into thinking of sex in a certain way even if they are distinctly uncomfortable with it.
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