Why do they make Xu Zhu mentally challenged?

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Why do they make Xu Zhu mentally challenged?

Unread postby patrickrafferty9 » Mon Apr 21, 2014 7:54 pm

Why do they make out that Xu Zhu is *mentally challenged* on every single dynasty warriors game?


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Re: Why do they make Xu Zhu retarded?

Unread postby Xu Huang fan » Mon Apr 21, 2014 8:30 pm

i don't know, he's been getting better in 7, having actual spotlight, and in 8 he seems like a normal, simple minded man like myself.

his voice i think might be the issue with why he sounds so...out there.

as for earlier installments, i say it has to be about early Koei making characters wacky
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Re: Why do they make Xu Zhu retarded?

Unread postby patrickrafferty9 » Tue Apr 22, 2014 4:31 am

I wish they made dynasty warriors a little more serious.

I know but to make one of the best generals of Cao Wei that *having learning difficulties *is just below the belt, especially when you look at his achievements.

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Re: Why do they make Xu Zhu retarded?

Unread postby DragonAtma » Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:32 am

Do keep in mind that Xu Chu was mainly a bodyguard, not a general.
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Re: Why do they make Xu Zhu retarded?

Unread postby patrickrafferty9 » Tue Apr 22, 2014 10:23 am

I thought Xu Zhu started off as a bodyguard and then went on to become a general?
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Re: Why do they make Xu Zhu retarded?

Unread postby Kong Wen » Tue Apr 22, 2014 12:02 pm

For the same reason any of the characters are caricatured—this game is a cartoon, and with such a large cast and such limited screen time for each, it's easier to give everyone a core gimmick than to attempt any characterization.
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Re: Why do they make Xu Zhu retarded?

Unread postby patrickrafferty9 » Tue Apr 22, 2014 2:31 pm

I know but you could easily make him like someone else without making him completely unique if that was the case. I just don't see why he should talk like a *someone with mental deficiencies*.
The way he looks is even worse its like when they got to his character design that they were bored and just wanted a bit of fun with it

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Re: Why do they make Xu Zhu retarded?

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Tue Apr 22, 2014 7:28 pm

patrickrafferty9 wrote:I thought Xu Zhu started off as a bodyguard and then went on to become a general?


More like commander of the bodyguards

I think the design for Xu Zhu is partly the round waist he was mentioned to have had, partly to reflect the persona and partly to give a cheerful Wei figure when, in early games, Wei was filled with cold, hard figures. I think his persona is partly the simply farm figure, partly need for Wei to have a cheerful figure and trying to play on the absent minded thing.

Koei are very very bad at avoiding blatant caricature or one note. Get Xu Zhu right, as they did in DW7, and he is a very strong character. Get it wrong as they often have and Xu Zhu comes across as a food obsessed idiot
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Re: Why do they make Xu Zhu retarded?

Unread postby Zorkaz » Tue Apr 22, 2014 7:38 pm

Hey guys, isnt't there a scene in the 2010 series, where Cao Cao had to demote Xu Chu, because of some grave mistake he made. Xu Chu then tells Cao Cao he doesn't have problems with a lesser rank, but because of his low income he won't be able to eat as much as before?!
I'm not sure if this scene derived from the novel or folklore but that specific scene might be a reason why KOEI portrayed him this way.

But I agree with Patrick: Xu Chu could be portrayed a bit better. Same goes for Zhang He.
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Re: Why do they make Xu Zhu mentally challenged?

Unread postby SunXia » Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:20 pm

I for one, was annoyed when I seen this post, as it is basically questioning why make any character different in any way!! There are many people out there that have mental disabilities and are able to still live fulfilling lives with jobs and partners!! Xu Zhu has a job to do and in the games that job is to protect Cao Cao!! He's not a strategist and he's not a leader so there is no call for him to have a high IQ and there's no call to use words that have been used to mock and discriminate people that have certain disabilities!!

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